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Hey everyone, I'm honestly really liking Lemmy so far. Maybe that's because it feels so much like browsing reddit 10 years ago and I think it's safe to say many of us have migrated from the blackout. I'd been a Reddit user since 2010 so I've witnessed the slow decline over the years but popping here has really driven home how corporate it started to feel--less like a genuine hub of community and more like a manufactured product with low effort content and some genuine discussion/input peppered throughout.

That said, does anyone feel the idea of a federated platform might be confusing to some less network-savvy users? There's other successful multi-server platforms like Discord but somehow for me the idea of a 'chatroom' versus something more like a forum/board seems like it would make more sense to a less informed user. I could see hearing that posts are aggregating from other sites or being cross-visible confusing to individuals who understand web usage as, 'visit site--post to site--view content on site'.

Does that make sense? lol Anyways, loving the site so far--hope to see it grow!

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[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I think it will ... if I look at my own use-cases for sites like this, it's connecting with people over shared interests (rather than instances) or scrolling memes. I don't see how any of these use cases benefit from federation (from the user perspective). The looming threat of information disappearing due to defederation, the confusion about instances, etc ... that's off-putting even to tech-savvy users.

Also ultimately I find it questionable from a philosophical perspective. Why should it matter which instance is your "home" instance, unless that's specifically the way of interaction you're looking for?

Again, for me it's interests over instances, and I think the federation aspect is just an additional layer that doesn't add any value.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

For the not so technically inclined the most confusing part of any fediverse service probably is the idea of "signup in some instance" and then you can interact with peope/posts in other intances too. The lazy mainstream people want a single place to signup and stay like reddit, facebook, twitter etc.

[โ€“] birdmancaw 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I only joined yesterday or the day before but I have to admit, I'm not loving this place so far. Adding communities that are not part of this instance is a giant PITA. The whole instance getting federated or defederated seemingly at the whim of the instance host is a bit sus to me too. Also, for some reason when I'm typing it just keeps having a popup saying "report created" in the bottom left. This place also is just as much of an echo chamber as Reddit from what I have seen, which is by far my biggest gripe with Reddit.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

From what I can tell, all of humanity is an echo chamber. In every single space we build, every relationship we form, and every conversation ever had, people will try to team up with people that agree with them and stand against people that disagree with them. Lemmy has ended up doing that because all space built by humans will end up doing that, it is inevitable to a large extent.

[โ€“] timeforanap 2 points 1 year ago

I've only just joined and that's because the past few times when I went to join I was confused about joining a certain server. I figured I'd have to investigate which server is best before I joined one and found it was the wrong one.

Now I'm realising it doesn't matter too much. However the toggle at the top of the main page between 'subscribed', 'local' and 'all' took me some time to realise. That was only when I'd subscribed to groups and they weren't appearing on the main page. So wondering how I get to see them was already a point of annoyance.

Having that automatically toggle to 'subscribed' once you've started down that path would have helped.

Anyway, Once you're past choosing a server it all feels strangely familiar and I'm liking it a lot.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago
[โ€“] birdmancaw 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I only joined yesterday or the day before but I have to admit, I'm not loving this place so far. Adding communities that are not part of this instance is a giant PITA. The whole instance getting federated or defederated seemingly at the whim of the instance host is a bit sus to me too. Also, for some reason when I'm typing it just keeps having a popup saying "report created" in the bottom left. This place also is just as much of an echo chamber as Reddit from what I have seen, which is by far my biggest gripe with Reddit.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

discord is not multi server btw

and sure it may be confusing but federation is the entire point - otherwise we're just creating another reddit / twitter / etc thats doomed to follow the same fate

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