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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

Belousov told RBC, a business channel, that the companies themselves proposed the taxes.

Yes, yes. I'm sure they did :-/

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Russia posted a first-quarter deficit of almost 2.4 trillion rubles amid the war in Ukraine.

Putin has absolutely destroyed Russia's economy and population for decades to come, for absolutely no reason and no benefit.

That's just tragic.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Just FYI, 2.4 trillion rubles is only about $28 billion USD.

The USA alone has spent about $40 billion on the war. If we look at the state's deficit as a whole, not just war spending: the USAs first-quarter deficit is about $230 billion.

If you calculate the first quarter deficit as a fraction of the country's GDP, the difference between Russia and the USA is negligible. If you wouldn't say that the USA is "destroying the economy and population for decades to come" on the monetary front, it makes no sense to make that statement about Russia either.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

You're right, I hadn't actually realized how small a number that was. That's almost suspiciously small, given the sanctions against Russia.

Mind you, I was also thinking of the sheer amount of brain drain and population drain Russia's war has resulted in for them.

Also, USA's spending on its military-industrial complex compared to its spending on every other part of its government is destroying its population, but that's another issue.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Indeed, I think it'd be more accurate to say that both are hurting their people due to war spending rather than implying neither are.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

It's a bit different though. The fall for Russia is actually massive, since last year they were still having a big surplus, while now they are facing a pretty serious deficit. Moreover this deficit comes at a time of increased spending and decreasing oil revenue, which makes up a very big part of the Russian GDP and most of the government's budget.

A shrinking economy with higher expenses and growing deficit is a potent combination and will probably call for even more taxes as the government tries to find a substitute to falling oil revenues.

[–] caoimhinr 13 points 1 year ago

Is windfall when a breeze blows them out of a 5th story window?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A dictator ultimately has to answer to someone. If he's losing support from the rich, I wonder what would happen next.

[–] reverendphil 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's a translation issue, it's a window-fall tax.

[–] MercuryUprising 1 points 1 year ago

Its also bullshit. Russia is insanely corrupt and those rich oligarchs are mostly putins friends, so this is just going to be used as an excuse to take more money from the citizens while saying, look, these guys are "paying" so much more, least you can do is pay more too!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

They should do this here. Not for war obviously, we could buy some trains or something. Instead we get no windfall tax and a military spending extravaganza. And soon, we'll get cuts to services I'm sure.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

That will improve his support.

[–] Raphael 0 points 1 year ago

Taxing the rich, fair enough, should've done way earlier.

[–] brain_in_a_box 0 points 1 year ago

4 billion doesn't seem like much at all? How much have other countries spent on the war so far?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

So the sanctions are finally hitting the oligarchs?

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