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We know what ‘foo fighters’ that buzzed Second World War pilots really were, say scientists (www.telegraph.co.uk)

submitted 9 months ago by HM05_Me to c/uap

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Archive Link: https://archive.is/2024.02.03-131857/https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/02/02/harvard-reveals-what-ww2-foo-fighter-ufos-were/

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[–] HM05_Me 6 points 9 months ago

An interesting take on potentially some UAP sightings. Atmospheric plasma and possibly life forms have been speculated over the years, though the frequency of sightings make it difficult to study. It's important to keep in mind that there won't be just one answer to UAP. There will likely be a variety of causes even for UAP that share similar appearance and behavior. So, while this could explain some of the phenomenon, it could just be just one piece of the puzzle.

[–] Son_of_dad 4 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Yet another "it was gas" excuse

[–] HM05_Me 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yeah. It's fine to consider additional possibilities for some sightings, but people will say this wraps up the loose ends of the phenomenon and that we should move on. I don't think this necessarily explains the foo fighter sightings, but I could see the potential for it to be a small subset of similar sightings.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I think it's very interesting that they specify that they appear attracted to nuclear sites. The Minute Men ICBM incidents at Minot and Malmstrom AFBs immediately came to my mind. The soldiers described them as orange-red pulsating glowing lights, which is similar to the description from this article.

I can see this as a possible alternative explanation there, but certainly not for other cases, such as the Falcon Lake incident.

Regardless, I'm glad to see relevant scientific research. That's exactly what we need for explaining the UAP phenomena. But it's hard to have valid scientific research on the subject when there is such a stigma...

[–] HM05_Me 4 points 9 months ago

Great examples. Definitely shows the range of objects sighted and complexity of reviewing the topic. Even if these scientists are onto something, they'd have a lot of documenting and research ahead of them. Hopefully we're breaking enough of the stigma to encourage more research on the subject. It'll take a lot of research to understand the various types of sightings.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

It's not simple gas, as I understand it. It's a living being with a plasmoid anatomy. It may even be intelligent. It's alive, with its own subjective experiences, memories, goals, evolution, etc. The claim here is not at all as prosaic as you make it sound.

Now, is that what all of UAP are? Personally, I don't prefer overly physicalistic explanations for the phenomena. This sounds like an attempt at 'taming the weird', as it were. Still, it's also an admission that our scientific establishment may have been blind to forms of life that were always with us but went unrecognized. It's a baby step for them.

[–] zanzo 2 points 9 months ago

the paper: