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Meta's planned Twitter killer, Threads, isn't yet publicly available but it already looks like a privacy nightmare...

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[–] mayumu 81 points 1 year ago (2 children)

For all the hate that the EU gets, I really appreciate that they won't bend over for corporate overlords when in comes to privacy.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] Squeak 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well just over 17M votes from the UK a few years ago…

[–] Redredme 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

By that metric the EU is in much better shape then the US has been in the last decade.

[–] Squeak 12 points 1 year ago

I’d agree with that.

[–] mayumu 1 points 1 year ago

There are some arguments when it comes to immigration policies (refugees). But looking at data of support of the EU - looks like a loud minority.

I think it's great.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What kind of hate does EU get?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

Right? The only people that seem to hate on the EU are the ones being prevented from profiting off of it the way they abuse Americans.

[–] NothingSpecial 36 points 1 year ago

Good, keep it out of the EU.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Interestingly it seems like the main reason is not the enormous data gathering list that has been posted a few times, but rather the connection to Instagram and whether the two services are allowed to share user data.

Meta is also using Threads as a test bench for the Digital Markets Act, so they are probably holding off the launch until they can get federation going.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And yet. It might also be a way to kill ActivityPub protocol. Google did the same with XMPP last decade

https://ploum.net/2023-06-23-how-to-kill-decentralised-networks.html

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I know that is a popular narrative in the Fediverse community right now, but I honestly find it unreasonable. Google and Meta didn't kill XMPP, they abandoned it and without them it went right back to where it was originally: barely used whatsoever. The Fediverse already has a small, but relatively healthy user base. Meta can abandon ActivityPub or twist it into something unacceptable, but all that will do is bring us back to where we are right now.

All that is irrelevant, though, because the difference is that Meta is legally required to incorporate interoperability with other services and that's why they are going with ActivityPub. Not from the good of their hearts, but because they need to and is in their own self interest to keep alive.

Right now, they are early adopters of ActivityPub and have a very early strong position there. When they federate they will be by several magnitudes the largest instance on the network. Whether we like it or not, they will inevitably be a major player in dictating the future of ActivityPub. Thus, they want to keep ActivityPub alive because they want to make sure that becomes the future EU mandated industry standard for SoMe. Otherwise, some other technology will be chosen, one that might not be lead by Meta, but by Google, Apple or ByteDance.

Note, that I'm not arguing whether this is good or bad, but only what I predict is happening.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

It really worries me that they're trying to be federated with it. Thankfully lots of instances will block it, but it was only a matter of time until a corporation decided to take aim at federation.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

It will it just a matter of time. With so tweaks but will.

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