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[–] lynny 30 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Good luck doing that with 8000 other subs.

[–] Steve 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They don't need to take over all of them. A dozen or two of the largest subs would be plenty. Those with less than a couple hundred thousand subscribers, don't really matter much.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A dozen or two of the largest subs would be plenty.

Those subs required a huge effort to moderate before, but it's going to be 10x worse now that every submission is going to be AI generated pictures of spez doing things to goats or something.

[–] Steve 2 points 1 year ago

That's true, but it's still a lot less than 8000 subs.

[–] lynny 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Even trying to take over the biggest subs would be Herculean, especially considering they just laid off 5% of their staff.

[–] tauonite 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As is suggested in the original post on Reddit, they could delegate moderation to the moderators opposing the blackout, as seems to have happened with r/AdviceAnimals. I feel like that's something they very well could do.

[–] LUHG_HANI 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Bet you they are going to use AI for the modding system. I swear this is their plan.

[–] MiddleWeigh 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Theyd use ai for content itself if they had to.

[–] LUHG_HANI 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ohh no, I forgot about that. Imagine visiting Reddit in a few years when the majority have left and all is left are the bots, AI and Gallowboob. Hell.

[–] MiddleWeigh 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It appears that all of the words in your comment are in alphabetical order

[–] LUHG_HANI 2 points 1 year ago

That's amazing to without knowing.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Raising the price on api usage was a dick move, this is just rude.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's literally embarrassing that Reddit is doing this, Reddit doing dumb API changes, Spez falsely accusing the owner of apollo of blackmail, and now they're unprivating subreddits.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Falsely accusing him of blackmailing and then doubling down on it in the AMA and then also ignoring Christian when he asked for proof and gave Spez full permission to show him where in any chat logs they had

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

That was the final straw for me. I don't much care about Apollo, but the behavior spez displayed there sends a clear message.

He will lie, cheat, and do whatever the hell he needs to, so long as it results in profit, or he believes that it does.

There's genuine intention to cause harm, there. And since that's the approach reddit takes to the literal foundation of their community? Fuck 'em.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

So this is what spez meant by

Apollo-Related Subreddit Blackouts 'Will Pass,' No Significant Revenue Impact So Far.

Man, they really really want that cash, I don’t think Reddit cares at all at this point. They’d be happy with repost bots on their platform.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just bots posting old content and tweets for the chatbots to comment on. Fun.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Beep. Boop. Beep.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Of course they are. That is why I am here, Reddit in my eyes is done for either way and once it is on the stock market, it’ll only get worse.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yep. Spez and the reddit admins have gone full mask-off, realpolitik, "do what we say or get the fuck out".

The platform still functions, for now, but this is genuinely the beginning of the end as far as I can tell.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I genuinely hope so. Hopefully this serves as a great example of why you should not offer your free work to a centralized company.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm surprised they even waited this long. Of course, unprivatizing subs is one thing, but let's see them try to moderate all of that content without the unpaid workforce that they've been used to. If a mod team is willing to take a sub private, it's a pretty clear sign that they're not going to give up and get back to work if their sub is forcibly made active again.

The shit show is only going to get worse from here.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Good point, reminds me of other attempts to break strikes, you can shoot people dead, but you can‘t shoot them to work. Well, you can attempt the threat of it and maybe some will half-assed pretend to work and others will turn to sabotage, so more accurate would be you can‘t force them to do good work. Even more so for volunteers.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

you can shoot people dead, but you can‘t shoot them to work

Well fucking put.

[–] LUHG_HANI 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I say as soon as the subs go live we all just spam Lemmy links to the new pages.

They can't ban us all. The mods probably won't care and the ones savvy enough will make it out.

We need the small wins first.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

That will increase the traffic and comments on Reddit, and improve the numbers on their IPO.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Time to shame the new admin for crossing the picket line. Disgusting behavior.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Never cross a picket line...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

The new mod was always there, hes a power mod who apparently has a brain implant that plugs directly into reddit, since he’s active 24/7

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago

We all knew this was exactly what they would do. They don't give a shit about any form of community, they just need enough generic content flowing to keep the lurkers happy enough to keep loading advertisements.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

Dang, they're getting really desperate. Gotta get that sweet ad revenue.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

Fuck those admins.

[–] tox_solid 11 points 1 year ago

It's not a good look. Every story I hear about the state of reddit currently is just another log on the funeral pyre of my reddit account. Good fucking riddance, spez and company.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Ooh wow. Mod sold out their subreddit.

Edit: found the thread. Bit of disagreement about what happened. Url for that link is here

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Humans will do anything and everything just to get cash /s

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

https://i.imgur.com/I7G25aL.png

Imgur link on image for those who want the context

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I want the Reddit link since the post is deleted.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They're digging their own grave. Subreddits grow because of good moderation, replacing the moderation will result in a much lower quality experience for everyone involved.

This is just part of the slow slide into being another Digg or MySpace. People will just move to the places that host the quality communities. It's trivially easy to move to Fediverse services and all of the top content on Reddit is crossposted to the relevant lemmy communities.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Compounded with the fact that they are killing thrid party moderation tools.

I don't see how this can go anything but horribly.

[–] thessnake03 6 points 1 year ago

Of course they did

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Pfft.. it's like a pathetic and fake version of Game of Thrones.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

from r/Wholesome where this was posted. Pinned mod comment states “This is disinformation

The rule that an inactive top moderator may not make the unilateral decision to close down a large, active subreddit against the wishes of the active mod team is years old and was first applied in 2018 against r/KotakuinAction

https://www.theverge.com/2018/7/13/17568598/reddit-employee-gamergate-forum-kotaku-in-action-creator

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That doesn't make it disinformation. The re-opening of kotakuinaction was abhorrent at the time.

So the top mod finally realized how much hate and misogyny they were pushing and how it was making reddit as a whole worse? so they shut it all down?

Apparently spez really sympathizes with people who push hate and misogyny, because he opened it right back up for them. Even though the site really would have been better with it gone and without their constant brigading and non-stop harassing of women in the gaming community.

It was a bullshit reason then, and it's a bullshit reason now. Back then it was used to help fucking horrible people stay online and have a voice, and now it's being used as a strike breaker. The "rule" only exists because they didn't want to lose ad impressions from misogynists. So give me a fucking break.

spez can eat shit and anyone parroting this "ThAtS dIsInFoRmAtIoN" bs can eat shit too.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I had a feeling they would do that.

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