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I got a medical card here in LA and the prices are outrageous. Getting a dablicator with full spectrum oil seems to be the most cost effective. Trouble is I can't seem to figure out how to use it.

At first I just ate it but I think I wasted $90 because I felt nothing and I don't think it was decarbed.

Next I got some refillable 510 thread vapes and a small syringe to fill it. That has been a pain but it at least works a bit.

How am I supposed to use this stuff? Is it all the same or are there different kinds? Is it decarbed at all or not meant for vaping?

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

I only ever get sublinguals for that. You just put a drop or two under your tongue and let it get absorbed through your gums. Tastes awful most of the time, and personally gives me heart burn the way fishoil does. But the pain relief and feeling of relaxation is amazing.

[–] FrostyTrichs 2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Do you have a Weedmaps link or anything for what you bought?

If I'm understanding what you bought correctly you should be able to do just about anything with it.

Some people eat it or put it under their tongue for a bit before swallowing it, other people vape/smoke it or add it to flower and then vape/smoke it. It should already be decarbed unless you mistakenly bought something else that was meant specifically for vaping or smoking.

I've seen decarbed oils and dab oil come in similar packaging before though so a picture or link would be helpful to confirm things.

[–] Chocrates 3 points 11 months ago (2 children)

This is the current one i have https://www.iheartjane.com/products/1554850/good-day-farm-og-kush

I have gotten a different kind in the dablicator format from Good Day Farms too.

[–] FrostyTrichs 3 points 11 months ago (2 children)

That looks like a product that's meant to be vaped or smoked in a dab rig, so very likely not decarbed. It's being advertised as "full spectrum concentrate" which is usually an indicator it's meant for vaping or smoking, and the fancy applicator is just to make it easier to get it where you want it without extra dab tools and extra mess.

I can't say with 100% certainty if that product is suitable for anything though since the details are extremely sparse. For future reference here's a cheat sheet on what has to be decarbed before use and what doesn't.

[–] Chocrates 2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Ok neat. It is CO2 extracted according to the box.

What is a dab rig? Is it appreciably different from a 510 vape? I have heard of dab's before but never understood them either

[–] FrostyTrichs 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

What is a dab rig? Is it appreciably different from a 510 vape?

It's a complicated answer. In the most basic terms a dab rig is just something that lets you vape or smoke concentrate quickly and easily. Some dry herb vapes get hot enough to put the concentrate directly into or on a pad of some kind to hold it while you vape it, and there's also quartz bangers and stuff if combustion is your style, and stand alone devices strictly for concentrates. There are options for dabbing via a 510 vape but usually the concentrate is so thick that it's a pain to do that way unless you're thinning it out or buying preloaded vape cartridges made for a 510 battery.

In your case the easiest way might be squirting some of the concentrate into a joint or something but it's hard to say without knowing what kind of hardware you have at your disposal. There are also some companies that sell addon pieces that fit a 510 battery that make dab hits easier. I'll link one but don't consider it a product endorsement as I don't actually use them, it's just to give you an idea of what you might find locally or online. There are several options available where I live for under $50, some under $30.

510 vape with concentrate chamber

If you already have a compatible battery you may only need the atomizer part, like this.

Atomizer

[–] Chocrates 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I have an Ooze Pen And refillable vape cart

I have been just squirting some of the oil in there and trying to vape it, with mixed success

I also have a Zeus dry herb vape which I love, but on the legal market herb is so expensive. $75 for 3.5 g :(

Sounds like I just need to buy a battery powered dab rig or an "atomizer" for my dinky little battery.

Edit: My (nicotine) vape shop said they had a 510 compatible atomizer in stock so ill go see what that is and see if it works better!

[–] FrostyTrichs 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

My (nicotine) vape shop said they had a 510 compatible atomizer in stock so ill go see what that is and see if it works better!

Any luck?

[–] Chocrates 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It is a nicer reusable vape cartridge for sure but not really different. If I turn the battery to max, pre heat it, and inhale slowly it works.

I also bought an explicit atomizer that should be here next week.

I think I just have no idea what I am doing, lol

[–] FrostyTrichs 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Does the new one have coils in it to put the concentrate on?

[–] Chocrates 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yep I think so, it was billed as a wax atomizer for a 510 battery. I figured that would work but who knows

[–] FrostyTrichs 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It could be that your battery is lacking power or maybe the stuff you got doesn't vape well and would be better suited for combustion.

I'm a firm believer in ball vapes for just about everything but that doesn't help you.

[–] Chocrates 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Honestly I'm thinking of going back to strictly edibles. I love the head high but my lungs hurt.

[–] FrostyTrichs 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Dry herb vaping is one of the passions in my life but that's also because I grow my own. It may not be the best in the world but it's definitely easy on the lungs.

Vaping may not be for you but concentrate through vape pens was always one of the hardest on my lungs. I don't really like 510 vapes for anything but stealth and rapid hits, but today's top end dry herb portables only take a few seconds to heat up. It's been at least a couple years since I've had a cart vape. Anyways, I'm heavily biased....

Edibles can be heady, you just need the right strain and the right method of intake. Sublingual troches aren't that hard to make at home and they offer rapid highs like vaping that can be very heady or very heavy body highs. Weed has a huge rage if you take the time to experiment and find out what strains and what terpenes take care of whatever it is you're using it for. Unfortunately it can also get expensive, and negative experiences tend to stick with people so they don't experiment much.

[–] Chocrates 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I am just sour that dry herb is 3x the price it was on the black market, at the legal dispensary. I need to move to a green state, tired of the south

[–] FrostyTrichs 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

legal dispensary. I need to move

Or, you know, the other thing.

[–] Chocrates 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I am sure there is a black market here but I haven't been able to find it :/. Closest person I could find was in Florida for some reason.

[–] FrostyTrichs 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I meant more along the lines of, it doesn't take that much to start growing indoors.

[–] Chocrates 1 points 11 months ago

Oh gotcha, Louisiana medical law doesn't let you grow yet and I think felony for growing is much bigger than possession. Can't wait until we are just fully legalized.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Traditionally a dab rig is like a bubbler or bong with a glass nail/bowl that you heat up with a torch and then apply to the concentrate. It would be like a 510 vape on steroids, similar to having a glass of wine versus a glass of whiskey.

[–] Chocrates 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I have heard dab's hit like a truck. When the vape cartridge actually produces vapor it is strong but not that strong. Although I could have a higher tolerance than I give myself credit for.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

This is accurate.

[–] schmidtster 2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

According to the manufacturer it’s edible, no heat so it’s decarbed.

https://dablicator.com/learn

[–] Chocrates 1 points 11 months ago

Good find! I see that they are dispensing it directly into a vape as well in one of the images.
I still wonder if the stuff I got last time wasn't decarbed because it didn't hit me at all and I am not the heaviest of smokers.

I think I am gonna play with an atomizer anyhow so I can see if that changes anything.

[–] FrostyTrichs 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Cool, good info for OP.

I treat all that promotional stuff as "best guess" for what's really in the tube whether it's a ccell cart or a dablicator. Dispensaries aren't the most honest of places and their sources leave a lot to be desired so who knows what really ends up getting to the customer. It wouldn't surprise me at all if there are variations of that product that aren't decarbed and are just using it as a method of delivery.

[–] schmidtster 1 points 11 months ago

I get what you are saying, without any controls, someone can buy the product and fill it with what they want. From their corporate page, they do seem to only do partnership type deals, so likely wouldn’t find non-carbed oil in them.

Hopefully they have controls in place to deal with non-compliance to their standards. So hard to know and tell with the market the way it is.

[–] Chocrates 1 points 11 months ago

yeah, I thought the dablicator was just a method of dispensing oil and not necessarily what was in it.
I really wish it was fully legal so I could find a better dispensary. This one won't let me talk to anyone that knows what they are doing after my initial consult, I just order it online and pick it up. I miss the dispensary in Oregon that was staffed by wonderful stoners that learned me all I wanted to know.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I actually met the Weedmaps people at a convention, they were nice.

[–] FrostyTrichs 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

My experience has been that most people who are in to weed are friendly, decent people. There's always outliers though.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I would like to see the mythical stoner that smokes a fat blunt to their dome and becomes enraged. For science purposes.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Dude the cheapest good bud you'll find is at the shadiest of places. Don't go to the mainstream dispensaries or chains, go to the actual medical dispensaries with your rec, no tax at those either. If you want to stick with concentrate find a place with deals, a lot of places have crazy ones on specific days of the week, like BoGo or everything is half off. In this city, you can also just makes friends with a grower and get flower for super cheap or at cost.

[–] Chocrates 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Unless I am misunderstanding LA law, I have a prescription to a specific Dispensary so I don't really get to shop around. I could go back to my "dr" for a new prescription but i doubt thats gonna be free.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Unless they changed the medical card system in the last 3 years, that's not true. You can use that rec at any dispensary and they'll waive the state tax. At medical ones they waive both state and county tax. Check the rec and see if it specifies a dispensary location, they used to just specify the doctor you got it from to ensure it's real.

[–] Chocrates 1 points 10 months ago

Hmm ill try to figure it out. I never even got the rec iirc, they sent it directly to the dispensary.