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Why haven't you taken the bear pill? (jlai.lu)

submitted 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Some woman on the internet said she would feel safer spending a night in the woods with a random bear rather than with a random man

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[–] berkeleyblue 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Which would be?

It’s nonsense. Out of 100 bear encounters about 1 turns violent. Now, how many men does the average women come in contact to daily and how many of them turn violent? I’m pretty sure the numbers are much, much lower than that for a bear encounter.

My Wife walked passed approximately 1’000 just today. No one even talked to her in a weird way. This whole argument is just fear mongering with sociallly acceptable sexism. This doesn’t solve any problems.

Also, statistically, strangers are the last people tk worry about. The overwhelming majority of abuse victims know their abuser or are even related. You should be more afraid to see uncle Frank and aunt Jenny in the woods than any random man.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

This is a gish gallop so I'm just going to highlight that the scenario in question is alone in the woods, not walking past men on a busy street.

Please consider that you might be getting defensive, and will misinterpret both the initial premise and any explanations as a result.

[–] berkeleyblue -1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Not at all. You said being alone in a forest with a man is more dangerous than a bear, and I said that’s statistically nonsense.

Just because I wrote more than 2 sentences, doesn’t make that a gish gallop.

There are 2 premises:

Bears are dangerous (I agree)
A random man in a forest is more dangerous to a woman than that bear (I strongly disagree)

I showed my numbers for that 1 argument and that’s it. I’m happy to be proven wrong, if you have anything more than “it just is”.

I’m not defensive I find this comparison to be simply ridiculous.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Now, how many men does the average women come in contact to daily and how many of them turn violent? I’m pretty sure the numbers are much, much lower than that for a bear encounter.

My Wife walked passed approximately 1’000 just today.

The only person you're fooling is yourself

[–] berkeleyblue -1 points 6 months ago

I still don’t see what you’re getting at, neither do I see any gish gallops here.

1 is the claim, the other an example on the same subject.