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Firstly: I'm reasonably sure these women are just kvetching. I often say 'I'd rather drink piss' to express that I don't like something. Obviously I'm not actually going to drink piss.

Secondly...I do agree it's a bit much to compare men to a deadly 1200 pound predator. I would be a bit fed up of hearing that too if I were a guy.

Thirdly...that said...I understand WHY women say that even if it's a bit ridiculous. I've had a male friend completely turn on a dime and send me rape threats while drunk. I pleaded and tried to reason with him for about 20 minutes before I completely snapped and threatened to do things to him with a hunting knife that I won't detail because there's no need to make people vomit. Only then did he back off and switch to making excuses and blaming his autism. It was terrifying because there was no reasoning with him. He LIKED that I was frightened and freaked out. It gave him a pleasurable power rush. The only reason he backed off was the threat of said hunting knife.

A bear isn't malicious. A bear just wants to eat. A bear can be redirected or avoided. You can do things such as wear a bell or carry mace or put up an electric fence around a tent. A man isn't necessarily malicious but IF he is...those precautions won't do jack poopsies because he consciously knows the woman doesn't want it and LIKES the act of stomping on boundaries.

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[–] inb4_FoundTheVegan 6 points 2 months ago (8 children)

I think 99% of the time a random guy is safe, there's a lot of guys out there, maybe I have tinted glasses

Yes. YES YOU DO. 99% of men are not a threat TO YOU. But how could you know any different?

To women though? It's way way WAY higher. For me it's not even a question between bear or man. Men are the reason I am scared to walk by myself at night.

Like, just go by the numbers if you are skeptical

https://vpc.org/press/nearly-1800-women-murdered-by-men-in-one-year-new-violence-policy-center-study-finds/

https://animal-world.com/bear-attack-statistics/

You need to step out of your own perspective and really understand the world that women are forced to live in before answering this question. I can respect that you think you might be biased, but I can not stress enough how "biased" is an understatement.

[–] aido 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children)

Wait, the FBI reports nearly 14k homicides in the US in 2019 and only 1.8k were a man killing a woman? That's a smaller proportion than I expected.

I got the FBI data here, it only breaks things down by method: https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2019/crime-in-the-u.s.-2019/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-8.xls

[–] Seleni 2 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Well, if we’re being pedantic you could check to see how many of those homicides were being committed by men vs women…

But also, it’s isn’t just murder that makes women fear men. It’s harassment. It’s rape.

[–] aido 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'm sure those numbers are much higher, I just felt weird looking at the linked study because it felt unnaturally void of context and when I found the context it made the study feel incredibly disingenuous.

I was trying to look up statistics on how many perpetrators of homicides, assault, etc. there were but I didn't manage to find anything. I was curious to what degree it was a "loud minority" kind of situation, which is the frame my brain goes into when I consider this hypothetical.

[–] Seleni 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

According to the CDC, as of 2010 nearly one in five women in the US has been raped. And 1 in 6 have been stalked.

That’s one heck of a loud minority, just saying.

[–] aido 1 points 2 months ago
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