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[–] rwhitisissle 7 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Linux is really just the kernel the OS runs on. What people dislike are some of the stupid choices a distribution's maintainers make. Like, Ubuntu used to be a great entry-level operating system for people who wanted to get into Linux but didn't want to ditch all the things they understood from Windows or MacOS. It provided a level of comfort and ease of use. Which is great, and something the Linux community needs. But then Canonical started injecting snap package bloatware with everything and it's just a mess. You have as little control over snap updates as you do Windows updates unless you completely disable the service, which is hardly trivial for a new user.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

I've been running Kubuntu for years now; it's convenient to use for me for professional reasons, but I've never used to snap to get new software. I've never disabled the the service. Are there flavors of 'Buntu that are "unsnapped", if you will? I know I should just search for it, but I thought I'd just ask.

[–] QuaternionsRock 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

unless you completely disable [snap updates], which is hardly trivial for a new user

Tbh it probably shouldn’t be trivial for new users to disable updates. I’ve seen way too many Windows/macOS users running a years out-of-date version of Chrome.

[–] rwhitisissle 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

In Linux you have to do sudo systemctl disable snapd, which produces a warning about snapd.socket. New users sometimes get a little freaked out about disabling stuff in systemd, especially after they find out what systemd is and does and how important it is. They're afraid of bricking their installation and you have to be like "no, that won't happen. Yes, I'm sure it won't happen. No, you don't need to reboot. Just replace disable with stop in those commands again and it won't run anymore. Yes, I'm sure it'll be fine." So the commands are trivial, but the psychological toll of doing stuff via the command line that you perceive as dangerous, for truly novice Linux users, isn't to be underestimated.

[–] QuaternionsRock 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Did you respond to the right comment? I was trying to say that instructing new/novice users to disable snap updates is probably a bad idea.

[–] rwhitisissle 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I read that as "should be trivial," not "shouldn't." In my defense, I don't have my glasses on right now. 🤓