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submitted 7 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 7 months ago (2 children)

we’ll have to start working towards that possibility the very second Biden gets reelected

I've been here before. The second Biden gets reelected, the tune will shift from "we’ll have to start working towards that possibility the very second Biden gets reelected" to "we’ll have to start working towards that possibility after the first year of his second term, since that's the only time Biden can get things done" to "we’ll have to start working towards that possibility the very second democrats win in 2026" ad nauseam. The time for change is now or the time for change is never.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

Our two glorious parties

A corpofacist theocracy.
A corporate theocratic controlled opposition party.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The time for change is now or the time for change is never.

Okay. What do you expect you can do in seven months? Because you don't just have to convince people like you—there's not enough of you to do anything but throw the election to Trump. You'll have to convince the leftist Boomers, Gen X, Millennials, and Gen Z who don't share your particular views that it's worth doing something drastic and potentially dangerous.

You'll have a much better chance of doing that when you have four years of "status quo" than 4+ years of hard right authoritarianism.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago

You’ll have to convince the leftist Boomers, Gen X, Millennials, and Gen Z who don’t share your particular views that it’s worth doing something drastic and potentially dangerous.

I mean, yes. That is what I am trying, in a very small way, to do.

You’ll have a much better chance of doing that when you have four years of “status quo” than 4+ years of hard right authoritarianism.

I'm not an accelerationist. I have nothing against voting for Biden as harm reduction. And I want to be clear that what I'm about to say is not me advocating for voting for Trump, which I view as a morally reprehensible and disgusting act. But you are just wrong; 4+ years of hard right authoritarianism will likely make those people much more likely to understand that something drastic and potentially dangerous is necessary. Again to be clear: that one good thing doesn't justify the rest of what will happen under a Trump admin, and people should not vote for him.

My point is that whatever you think should be done after Biden gets elected, you should just do now, because if you wait, you'll be waiting forever.