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Sure they could've gone out of their way to create another developer account which also costs another yearly fee of 98,99€. I fail to understand why anyone would feel entitled enough to even consider the developer should pay that just so people can download a free/low price, completely optional app from an ever-so-slightly more convenient store front.
They chose not to. Simple as that. I agree that they could distribute it in the EU App Store, but even then a subscription would be required to cover costs (after 1 million installs, which I wouldn't be surprised if this app crosses that number somewhat quickly) as the core technology fee is per annual install, meaning it is reoccurring unless users uninstall the app.
Don't forget the recent Yuzu lawsuit as well. While we're not sure of the exact details of the settlement, part of what made Yuzu vulnerable to a takedown was the fact that they paywalled (beta versions of) the emulator. Commercializing Delta could potentially attract Nintendo lawyers for all we know. The current 1,50€ fee isn't for the emulator, it's for the AltStore itself.
You can also install it via the non-PAL AltStore or you can sideload it manually by signing the app manually, no store required. You could also create a US Apple ID to download the app from the App Store (remember how you suggested the developer could just get multiple developer accounts?).
So it's not okay for the developer to create another another that costs < 100€ but it's okay for him to say that the CTF may bankrupt him? Like he did on his blog post? It would've been way cheaper and risk free for him to get another account than what he's doing.
As I said before, I was okay paying for the App on the EU Stores, but the gatekeeping is bad taste.
Yes and then I've to refresh the App every 7 days...
There have been multiple people reporting that after iOS 17.4 you can't do this anymore. Seems Apple applied more geolocation specific rules not only for EU users abroad but also the opposite.
Or you could pay Apple 98,99€ per year for a developer account (just like you suggest the developer of Delta should do with another account) and sign it for 365 days instead of 7.
Yeah, that would be a weird thing to do (and expensive), but as I said the emulator itself is completely free and the developer offers a more convenient way to install it in the EU via their own AltStore PAL for a tiny fee.
If you don't agree with that, you're on your own installing this app (well, the non-PAL AltStore actually helps you a lot in the process). The company making sideloading so difficult is Apple. Or you know, just don't install Delta and move on.
Even as much as calling the developers' decision "bullshit" comes off as super entitled. They owe you nothing and get flak for it. There's nothing wrong with asking the developer in a friendly way if they could publish the app on the EU App Store, but it's their decision after all.
Having to install a 3rd party store isn't, at all, "more convenient" than having Delta on the App Store and buying it for 0.50€.
You are right, it was a big exaggerated from my part, but still he was the one accepting the "new terms" that brings the CTF and that caused an inequality situation between US and EU users. As Apple says here developers can keep operating under the "old terms" and not be subject to the CTF - the downside is that he wouldn't be able to launch the AltStore under the same account.