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lemmy Vs kbin? (mstdn.social)
submitted 2 years ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
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I'm a bit confused with my options here. I am looking at Reddit alternatives and see a lot of people flocking to lemmy but it seemed like kbin was the more centrist option?

Apparently lemmy was set up by a tankie and has some CCP propaganda and other problematic background?

https://mstdn.social/@feditips/106835057054633379

I have accounts with both and definitely seems like kbin is struggling compared to lemmy but that could just be because lemmy is better established? What are people's thoughts?

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Thanks, that's sober and very reasonable. One objection though ...

it would be like saying that anyone having an iPhone is in favor of child labor, or that anyone eating Nutella is in favor of destroying the Amazon forest, or whatever other example you can think of products we consume daily that are detrimental to the health of our planet.

This is not a fair comparison. Ultimately, the only way of combating bad corporate behaviour is sincerely having one's awareness follow consequence, and that means not to buy from such companies. Else that's cognitive dissonance. In the case of free and open stuff however, we do not "buy" it in that same sense, but we own it if we wish. Therefore, the only responsibility we have lies in what we do with the product, ourselves. If we use it for doing bad things, then there is no-one else to blame.

[–] ulu_mulu 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

It's true that we need to be aware of corporate behavior and do out best to avoid products, my point is our life is so full of bad things that if we had to avoid them all, we'd end up living as hermits completely cut out from the rest of the world.

It's not feasible, we all need to make some compromises, tho where to draw the line is a personal matter, as I said.

My point is also that we should be coherent as much as possible, so if you use Reddit that's part owned by Chinese investors, you can't be so against everything about Lemmy because of political reasons, it's not coherent.

The purpose of my comparison is to explain those points, it doesn't matter if you don't "buy" opensource, some people are not familiar at all with how opensource works, but I believe my comparisons can still be understandable to them.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

I get it. If one isn't aware or if there are really no viable alternatives. It's just that those examples you took are just not in that category. If one goes like, "I really dislike tha company for how it operates but i like the product they make in that way, so i will support that company by buying the product" -- that's called a cognitive dissonance. The world is not going to get any better by our indolence.

btw. fun fact, this man here is living half of his time in a cave. :-D