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US President Joe Biden has condemned Iranian attacks on military facilities in Israel, pledging a coordinated Group of Seven (G7) diplomatic response while highlighting the United States’s help in taking down “nearly all” of the attacking drones and missiles.

Biden, who cut short a trip to Delaware and returned to Washington, DC to meet advisers over the late Saturday night attack, said in a statement released by the White House that the US forces and facilities had not been hit.

The US president said he reiterated the “ironclad” support for Israel’s security in a call with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, with whom he has had strained relations over Israel’s handling of the war in Gaza.

“Tomorrow, I will convene my fellow G7 leaders to coordinate a united diplomatic response to Iran’s brazen attack,” he said.

“And while we have not seen attacks on our forces or facilities today, we will remain vigilant to all threats and will not hesitate to take all necessary action to protect our people,” he said.

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[–] Maggoty 2 points 8 months ago (2 children)

After growing up in a soup of propaganda? Where many of them have no other means to escape poverty?

And it would have a better track record if we didn't use it so badly.

[–] Woozythebear 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Still a choice, I choose to live in poverty over joining the military. Tens of millions of Americans living in poverty make that choice.

[–] Maggoty 1 points 8 months ago

Yeah I'm talking about the track record. I'm not disputing that joining in the first place is a choice. It's also only got that track record because of the people we elect.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I highly doubt that there is no career option or field for them to go into other than mass murder. It doesn't even pay that well! It's just mid pay with good benefits.

Would you excuse someone becoming a hitman for the money? A mass murderer is far worse.

[–] Maggoty 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Nope, not really. Not unless you get lucky. The US is really bad about the whole socioeconomic mobility thing. And the idea that everyone in the military is a murderer is debatable at best. You also haven't really thought about the information environment in which a poor, badly educated, 18 year old reaches the recruiters office. They see the military as both a way out and a noble calling. And why wouldn't they? People around them have put soldiers on pedestals their entire life.

It's not until later they get a look at what being in really means and by that point they're trapped until the end of their enlistment. Which is why it's on us to elect representatives that will stop abusing the military.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

If recruiters for hitmen and assassins were everywhere and reached everyone easily, I still wouldn't sympathize with those who thought its a good idea. Even if the recruits were spreading propaganda, I will judge anyone who falls for it.

Do you apply the same logic to those who join islamist terror organizations? Most of these organizations use even more propaganda tactics. They prey on troubled young people and convince them that they are embarking on a righteous mission. Their propaganda is even more powerful as it relates to religion, which is closer to one's heart than patriotism typically.

At least in the military, you will immediately see that whatever they promised you is wrong. You'll immediately see you're attacking other countries that aren't a threat to your people. Terror organizations will still see people they were convinced to be sinners, standing in their way of establishing the kingdom of God.

I don't sympathize with either

[–] Maggoty 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

That's the thing. The vast majority of the military doesn't attack anyone unless we're in a war. They just train. And yeah there's a bit of a difference between religious terrorists and soldiers.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

The military has been in some war of another almost my entire lifetime. That's not even counting when they're doing messy proxy shit like advising opposition militias.