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[–] Rapidcreek 24 points 7 months ago (11 children)

They could use more. The Russians are flying their air space pretty much at will and missles are coming at close to overwhelming numbers.

[–] Waldhuette 20 points 7 months ago (9 children)

Would be nice if someone else would be stepping up as well. Germany hardly has any military to speak of yet it is somehow delivering the most weapons in recent months/weeks.

[–] Rapidcreek 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (6 children)

The EU has delayed their budget until more Patriot systems are provided. Hopefully, this is only the first. There are around 100 such systems in the EU.

[–] Waldhuette 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

That's just another show like Macrons big words about Russia. There will be no action. What makes you think suddenly there will be a difference? Other countries also have cruise missiles like Taurus but aren't sending them. Only thing you hear is blaming Germany for not sending Taurus.

Yet somehow people buy all the rhetoric.

[–] Beryl 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Both France and the UK have sent SCALP/ Shadowstorm cruise missiles to Ukraine, so I don't get what you're referring to. The Taurus would be interesting for Ukraine because of the longer range this weapon system has.

[–] Waldhuette 5 points 7 months ago

Yes they send some but the supply has been more or less dry. And they don't seem to be ordering new ones. The UK literally suggested Germany could send them Taurus in exchange for Storm Shadow because they ran out and their new replacement missle is still in development and that is why they arent buying any new ones. Also anyone else could have bought Taurus or similar missles to send to Ukraine but they aren't. Also UK/France are not the only countries that have similar systems. Yet you never hear complaints about them not sending them.

[–] Rapidcreek 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

If it's all talk, it doesn't seem so with this news.

I'm not going to second guess why certain armaments aren't provided as I know many factors are involved and am not privy to those decisions.

[–] Waldhuette 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Germany has been delivering big weapons packages frequently. Others are mostly talking. This "block" in EU parliament is not suddenly going to make the others srop putting on shows and making some real actions. https://www.politico.eu/article/france-talk-tough-ukraine-while-gobble-up-more-russia-gas/

Everyone was harping on Germany for gas imports. Yet now we have Macron making big speeches about supporting Ukraine. Then they barely send any real support and instead secretly they are importing tons of Russian LNG.

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