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Solarpunk Travel

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Community for those focused on sustainable travel. Our society's current levels of energy intensive and frequent travel are not compatible with life on a finite planet. We advocate for long-term slow travel to see the world, and low energy local travel to deeply experience your community. Green washing free zone.

related to sustainable travel:

related to travel generally:

The communities listed above are decentralized. Centralized instances are omitted as they go against the fedi purpose and it’s better to cultivate digital rights in the free world. That means instances that have a disproportionately large population or are centralized on Cloudflare are not listed.

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Other travel communities for the sidebar (slrpnk.net)
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Solarpunk travel is intended for /sustainable/ travel, right? So where can we discuss travel with no sustainability relevance? I only consider proper decentralized non-Cloudflare instances. This is what found as free world venues for travel chatter:

The places other than [email protected] are ghost towns but that’s nothing that can’t be fixed with a bit of cross-posting. I suggest putting them in the sidebar as related communities.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I guess you don't consider [email protected] fit for the sidebar then.

I was surprised for the community not even being federated on the slrpnk instance, i thought that would have been just the right user base.

Would you be opposed if some content from over there would also be crossposted to here?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

I guess you don’t consider [email protected] fit for the sidebar then.

Bicycle touring is relevant but indeed lemmy.world is antithetical to fedi philosophy and purpose so I wouldn’t want to promote it on the sidebar. #LemmyWorld has a group for everything and needs no promotion. They replicate communities in the free world, effectively poaching from better places.

Would you be opposed if some content from over there would also be crossposted to here?

No; feel free to crosspost either way.

My personal approach is to post initially in the most relevant free world decentralized community first, creating a new community if necessary. If the post contains a question that’s starving for answers after some time, then I might cross post to centralized places¹ in part to promote the better venue to those in places of oppression… to try to steer people toward a more ethical workflow.

Some instances only show the parent of a cross post, while other instances show both parents and children in a cross posting scenario. This is why I favor the digital rights respecting community for the initial post.

① e.g. lemmy world, sh.itjust·works, lemm·ee, lemmy·ca, programming·dev, and lemmy.ml.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I don't think there are any other bicycle touring / bikepacking communities on other instances. Also it was created by a user, not "by them". I am a moderator of that community (but i didn't create it), i have a lemmy.world account too. I ended up on world because they accepted people when many instances didn't and i didn't want to sign up to an instance that may be run on somebody's raspberrypi and would be turned off in a week or something. It was hard to tell what was what, being new to lemmy.

Personally i would be down, moving the community to another instance, but i am not the creator of it. I think i will propose a move in the future to see what the people think, but i also won't be mad if people don't want to move, i am personally more interested in getting niche communities to take off on the fediverse in general, and lemmy.world is part of that.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I ended up on world because they accepted people when many instances didn’t

That’s the problem with #LemmyWorld. They do not exercise self-control and grew far beyond that of a healthy balance of power. Part of their excessive growth is attributed to their use of an oppressive US tech giant, Cloudflare, which is a centralized gatekeeper who dictates which people get access to what. They’ve betrayed their users and sold out the digital rights of the commons in trade for gratis “security” (though I hesitate to call it security when availability is ruined to the demographics of people CF oppresses).

and i didn’t want to sign up to an instance that may be run on somebody’s raspberrypi and would be turned off in a week or something.

That’s a real risk with the small instances but it’s a risk that we accept in the free world. It’s even more infuriating when a small instance opts to suddenly join Cloudflare without announcement, as opposed to going down. Then users get pawned to an oppressor without their knowledge or consent -- while some users suddenly get shut out of the walled garden with their data trapped inside. This happened with waveform.social, lemmy.ca, and programming.dev. My content is now held hostage in those places unless I pawn myself to Cloudflare.

The way forward is better tools. There are various archival clients which grab your content as regularly as you want and save a searchable local copy. When a raspberrypi running in some kid’s mom’s basement gets spontaneously unplugged, you have your archives.

For the case at hand, I suggest creating a community either here or on the travel-specific instance lemmy.globe.pub. Let me know if you do so I can add it to the sidebar.