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I've started reading Jumper by NameDoesNotMatter. I would like to formally apologise about all the harsh things I've ever spoken about that film.

Fine, the cast is unlikeable and the action scenes are just fisticuffs in the air, but my god, in comparison to the teenage dreck that is the book, it's a masterpiece. At least they tried to build a credible back story for the main character.

In the book, he literally thinks everyone is out to sexually assault him (and somehow they seem to), he solves his problems by throwing money at it, instead of any actual creativity, and the author desperately tries to portray him as a mature-for-his-age adult, despite the fact that his first reaction to anything is crying followed by petty revenge.

I'm just flicking through the pages, pausing at any plot bits, and then flicking on.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Harry Potter, the movies are at least wizards do wizard stuff even if the world is pretty boring to me. The books on the other hand, are just straight up strange and mean. Reading them as kid they just sucked, I have no clue why they are so popular outside of the movies.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Harry Potter has some issues, but for children's fiction it's better than a lot of series.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

I’d have to disagree with that, one of the main reasons I didn’t read Harry Potter as kid was because there was simply better fiction. That and also easy access to manga in the west had started becoming bigger.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 7 months ago (1 children)

What do you mean by strange and mean?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago

There’s a lot of moments where the characters will laugh at or make fun of someone for something to a degree I would never do irl, or the slave bit with hermione. The characters also just don’t evolve at all. Reading Harry Potter just gave me a fish out of water feeling, there were better magic books with characters that actually grew and changed.

[–] daltotron 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I dunno, I'm sure there's a more complicated and interconnected series of events which lead to them truly being popular, not least of which was the movies, but in terms of how they're structured, it kind of makes sense to me why they were a successful fiction. The various different houses, even though they're mostly indistinguishable from one another internal to the books, give kids something to identify with and self-categorize into, which is something that teenagers kind of love doing in a struggle for identity. They're also part of the hidden world subgenre, which means it's even easier for tweens to self-insert into.

Then, I think it also helps that they're kind of poorly written, weirdly enough. Every character isn't usually a real, fleshed out individual, they're just an archetype, and a shorthand, a common trope. I think this is probably desirable for a tween audience, and I think probably also a simple to follow plot and set of plot elements is also more desirable. There's no lore to keep up with, it's just like you've taken a bunch of other tropes from other, better works and compressed them into an easily digestible series of books full of melodrama. It's not super hard to understand. Those other books, they're like the various PDAs and shit you'd see floating around in the 90's, they're explicit works of art constructed for a singular purpose. Harry potter is like an ipod touch, or an iphone, or something, it's just engineered to have more mass appeal at the expense of complexity and possibly quality.