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    [–] [email protected] -3 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    Network transparency OR BUST

    [–] Rustmilian 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)
    [–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

    And that's with functional copy&paste, drag&drop ? Basically indistinguishable from a local app ?

    [–] Rustmilian 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

    Yes, just go try and see for yourself.

    [–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

    Sure, let me dust off my fucking SPARCStation and connect up to my fucking NIS server so I can fuck off and login to my Solaris server and run X11

    Fucking WHO needs mainframe oriented network transparency in the 21 century leave that shit in 1989 like it belongs

    [–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

    Ok, then buy an rtx 4090 for every computer in the house

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

    I know this as a fact that Nvidia GT730 under Nouveau and Intel HD 2500 can run Wayland without issues

    [–] [email protected] -1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

    You misunderstand, I don't want crap graphics on every computer, I want the 4090 driving every computer without having to buy one per computer.

    That's what you could do with network transparency.

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

    RDP (Remote Desktop Protocol) works leaps, bounds and miles better than the 1989 X11 Network Transparency system ever did. Especially so that X11 was never intended for hardware accelerated compositing or 3D apps.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

    PCs were not intended to have more than 640kb of ram and yet.

    The blame can squarely be placed on nvidia for this decrepitude of X11 and its functionality which is in contradiction of nvidia's unlimited profit ambitions.

    RDP is the anachronism. Why would I want to stream a whole desktop environement with its own separate taskbar, clock, whole user environement. Especially given how janky and laggy it is.

    No, I want to stream -just- the application, it should use my system's color and temperature scheme, interoperate clipboard and drag&drop, be basically indistinguishable from a locally running app, except streaming at 500mbps AV1 hardware encoded, 12 ms latency max, 16k resolution, yes this is not a typo, 16 bit hdr, hdr that actually works, the sounds works too, works every time, yes 8 channel 192khz 24 bit lossless. Also capable of pure IP multicast streaming. Yes that means one application instance visible on multiple computer, at the same time and can be interacted with multiple users at the same time with -no- need for the app to be aware if any of this.

    Do that with no jank and I'll sing wayland's praises.

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

    There is a project called waypipe

    Also I call bullshit on XOrg supporting anything you said without issues. In my experience, it can shit itself by itself when you look at it wrong.

    [–] MeanEYE 2 points 7 months ago

    X.org hasn't been network transparent for more than a decade. Ever since SHM and DRM1 and 2 were added X.org was network capable but not transparent.