It's been two days since I originally posted the final name poll, votes have stopped coming in, and the winner is Kibby!
So, everyone, meet Kibby! Crafted by the community. He is ours! β€οΈ
In celebration, I have created a script that changes the default/no avatar (blank) into a randomly selected variant of Kibby! And there are tons, about 25 and more to come.. Thanks for the idea, @sab!
Here is how the script looks in action (sorry for imgur's shit quality lol)
I'd like to say thank you so much to everyone who has given me their time, feedback, insight, and ideas which helped me, together with you all, develop Kibby further into his wonderful finalized version. Especially thank you to @FixedFun who's original design and idea kickstarted this entire process. This was super fun, and I am really happy with how he turned out, and I hope you all are too.
β‘β‘Λβ Download the mascot files here βΛβ‘β‘
I provided svg and png both with and without gradient, a clean the Adobe Illustrator file, and all of the current Kibby variants!
(Λ΅ β’Μ α΄ - Λ΅ ) β§
What are the terms of use of this mascot? Can one include it in a Kbin mobile app, for example? If you plan to allow its redistribution, you might consider deciding on a proper license for it, e.g. one of Creative Commons.
didnt even think of that, and wouldnt have if you didnt say this lol. ive never done that before, it seems pretty simple, but i don't really know if the license i might choose makes sense. do you think this one is reasonable for what it is? ultimately id like anyone to be able to do anything (adapt, build upon, change, be creative) with it except use it solely for monetary gain. as for someone like ernest or an app dev, if he or the other devs were to recognize Kibby as a mascot, I'd like them specifically to be able to do pretty much whatever they'd want with it (include in mobile app and so on)
The Kbin code is AGPL, so that will likely become the license for the actual art assets if it's put in place officially. The current folder logo is already in the repo and under AGPL. If I were Ernest and wanted this to be part of the project I would ask you to submit it as a PR to Codeberg (and sign any necessary CLAs) so that the assets are properly placed into the repository under its license.
For now you can use CC-BY-NC-SA like you suggested which would allow for profile pics, magazine sidebar images, fan art, and the like. Since this is a SA license the users and mods need to have their modified images released under the same license as well. For a PFP attribution and indication of the license would be difficult and most people probably won't care. Also note that the CC license is irrevocable and people are allowed to use the assets freely outside of Kbin as long as the terms are followed.
As a 3PA dev or a Kbin instance owner I would not touch anything with NC as there is some ambiguity in the NC clause which might be trouble for an instance which say is not for-profit but accepts donations. In addition if the app was open-source they would need to separately license the artwork to maintain compliance with CC-BY-NC-SA.
In the future though Ernest might want to trademark the mascot along with the name Kbin so that it will be used exclusively to represent the project. This would probably require a formal release from you (AGPL won't cut it here) basically giving them the rights to to do whatever they want with it.
Yeah this stuff is messy :) but it's good to know about it and get the conversation started now. I'm actually about to get this account deleted but thought it was worth mentioning this as I've been following the Kbin mascot ideas from the start.
Isn't this true for BY-SA too? Share-alike meaning it's copyleft.
BY-SA is officially listed as one way compatible with the GPL (basically you can distribute a BY-SA asset under the GPL), with the detailed analysis shown here. Kbin is under the AGPL which to my knowledge is not listed as compatible, but it should be fine as AGPL is basically GPL with the condition that the source must be released if the modified program is run on a server and not directly distributed. Keep in mind that BY-SA does allow commercial use and basically is the art equivalent of software's GPL.
IMO the cleanest way to do this would be to distribute Kibby under AGPL directly to Codeberg or grant rights under a custom agreement if Ernest wants this to be the official mascot. Alternatively the Kibby asset could be released under a second license and people hosting their own Kbin instances would have to comply with the second license to use the mascot. This could work as Kibby isn't required for Kbin to function instance owner could easily substitute a different image if they don't agree with the license.
I think it would not just restrict simply selling the image or its derivative works, but also prohibit using it as part of paid product (e.g. paid app). Probably ad-supported websites or apps too, but it's unclear. I'm not lawyer though so it could be wrong.
Personally I have to problem with that but it may deter others so you will need to decide according to your convictions.
Here is great write-up about non-commercial clause by Wikimedia (in 3.5 section): https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Open_Content_-_A_Practical_Guide_to_Using_Creative_Commons_Licences/The_Creative_Commons_licencing_scheme