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How do we package food products sustainably in coming decades? (self.asklemmy)

submitted 10 months ago by j4k3 to c/[email protected]

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I imagine all plastics will be out of the question. I'm wondering about what ways food packaging might become regulated to upcycling in the domestic or even commercial space. Assuming energy remains a $ scarce $ commodity I don't imagine recycling glass will be super practical as a replacement. Do we move to more unpackaged goods and bring our own containers to fill at markets? Do we start running two way logistics chains where a more durable glass container is bought and returned to market? How do we achieve a lower energy state of normal in packaging goods?

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (8 children)

Local production is counter-intuitively worse because you have more people hauling less produce. Even in a clean energy paragdime that's just excess waste. We need to find a way to be sustainable at scale

[–] BaldManGoomba 2 points 10 months ago (7 children)

? If it is produced locally then food wouldn't come across the world. Lots of meat and produce comes from California or China for northeast America. Less people hauling anything the better. Like we can grow in a building in the city way more efficient than long hauling.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

our current civilization is built on the division of labor. everyone could theoretically produce their own food and that would be more efficient but not enough people have the time or expertise so there will always be some form of moving produce to market and that will always be more efficient at scale.

Those wind powered container ships would be pretty good marketing for a green leaning company (hint hint)

[–] BaldManGoomba 1 points 10 months ago

In no way was I saying everyone growing their own food. We can grow 15-30 miles out of the city. We can stop outsourcing our manufacturing and growing thousands of miles away from where people are.

Kansas to New York is over a thousands miles that is wildly inefficient. Don't get me started if we could get farms closer to trains that go to the city.

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