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Let's say the worst case scenario happens with kbin and Meta. What are some alternate sites/instances that would be more resilient to enshitification? (kbin.social)

submitted 1 year ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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I'm getting really tired of trying to run away from big tech, only to be ensnared again by the greed and/or naivety of sites who ultimately cave to the whims of big tech.

Mastodon has already caved, and the silence of lemmy's and kbin's developers over this matter isn't exactly reassuring. Since I more or less still have my bags packed from leaving reddit, what are some other communities I could try that would be more resilient to corporate encroachment?

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Three, as NSFW content is already almost universally defederated from by every instance.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

God I hope the wider fediverse loses its prudishness as a result of this. Corpos hate nsfw stuff, we should be joining forces.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Not being horny all the time is not the same as being a prude.

Corpos hate NSFW stuff because your average person doesn't generally like it unless they're explicitly searching for it. It's not like C Suite execs also all randomly are Puritans.

[–] whatsarefoogee 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Corpos don't like NSFW because advertisers don't like NSFW.

And advertisers don't like it because they don't want their ads assosicated with pornography.

It has very little to do with what users want.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And advertisers don't want their ads associated with porn because they think it'll harm their sales, thinking that customers won't buy from brands associated with porn.

Money always talks at the end of the day, and people buy (non-necessary) things because they want them. If putting McDonald's ads next to porn would increase sales, they'd do it in a heartbeat.

But they don't, because in general, people don't actually want to think about porn outside of very specific and intentional circumstances.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I disagree; there's a lot of irrationality at the top when it comes to ads and porn. But some of that is fear of legislative reprisal from some of the more conservative governments.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

There's definitely some nuance, and I'm very much not saying that corporations are always perfectly rational or anything. I know payment processors on particular are pretty sensitive to NSFW business out of fear of legal risk for processing child porn.

But I also wouldn't say it's completely detached from actual consumer preferences either. These things are usually multi-faceted.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Defederating NSFW instances is a big step up from not being horny all the time.