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Israel Has Created a New Standard for Urban Warfare. No One Will Admit It (www.newsweek.com)

submitted 7 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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All available evidence shows that Israel has followed the laws of war, legal obligations, best practices in civilian harm mitigation and still found a way to reduce civilian casualties.

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[–] HappycamperNZ -1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Second reply- you won't get a balanced reply on lemmy. There is a known bias against Israel and a push to promoting one sided articles and arguements from the likes of MEE and democracynow.org. The ignorance is wilful and fixed, to the point Hamas war crimes are justified as "they have no choice", regardless of the evidence.

[–] thelittleblackbird 9 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Nobody here is justifying Hamas. But Israel is killing children without any justification. To the point that even the U.N. Is concerned.

If you want a tip from a stranger. Reassess your position to think under which circumstance is OK killing kids. And we are not talking about just a pair of accidents (https://news.un.org/en/story/2024/03/1147512)

[–] HappycamperNZ -1 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Agree - no one in this thread is justifying Hamas (its actually a pretty well referenced thread TBH) but these arguements are ones I have noticed over a number of months rather than a specific thread. I don't have 25 year experience but studied it at bachelor level.

I do find it interesting your comment back jumps straight to number of kids. Please don't take my step back and assess attitude for indifference - people die in war, especially those in high density urban environments where one side is a terrorist organization and the other attacks places that have lost protection. There is alot of shit wrong with this conflict, but by no means is Israel the only one causing it - you haven't mentioned anything on how attacks are carried out on civilian structures because Hamas is using human shields either. You will argue civilian deaths are high - I fully agree because that is what happens in asymmetric and unconventional warfare.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

So you literally made up a strawman to attack?

[–] thelittleblackbird 3 points 7 months ago

Agree, the situation is completely shitty in this part of the world, and probably it has many parents that contributed to it.

I know in which world I live, I am not naive either an Idealist. People die in war. But it is completely different dying because of bad luck (you were in the wrong place at the wrong time) than dying of indiscriminate fire. The responsability of the collateral damage is always on the attackers, because you can always decide to wait and attack in a more convenient moment.

And no again, usa in Iraq or Afghanistan was producing a fraction of these casualties per week in an affected population of almost an order of magnitude higher. There is not any excuse here.

Israel is indiscriminate killing civilians in Gaza, inflicting a level of pain and destruction that was not seen in a looong time.

This article is utter garbage that only tries to wash Israel image with lies and half baked trues. And it it is not ok