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Sealioning (lemmy.world)
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[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (6 children)

Your definition of sealioning, that it’s defined by intention, that it involves a mask, these are all non-falsifiable. You realize that right? They contain no mechanism for accepting new information from outside your ideology, and make your mind starve to death.

This overall approach to things — to operate on the basis that all is known and understood and that those who disagree or behave as if there might be incompleteness in the knowledge — is what the term “totalitarian” refers to.

A classic example of “totalitarian” thinking is if you solve a game like tic-tac-toe. Having a game 100% solved, ie having computed every move, and therefore having 100% certainty as to the optimal play strategy, is a situation where you’ve encapsulated the totality of the game in your mind.

The idea that the totality of existence, of real life situations, is already known and the optimal strategy already computed, is “totalitarian”.

A totalitarian dictatorship is one in which that totality of understanding, and the resulting certainty of optimal strategy, is used to justify stripping subjects of all freedom. Any deviation from the optimal is considered bad, so freedom is worthless.

And of course there are degrees of totalitarianism, expressed implicitly in aspects of culture.

Science, by its emphasis on putting empirical observation above theory in terms of trust, allows for external information to update itself. Science is not totalitarian in that sense.

The term “Sealioning”, by enabling people to decide that any interaction at any time possesses a particular intention (un-observable, non-falsifiable), or that a particular mask is being used (un-observable, non-falsifiable), that they can just ignore the interaction and cast aspersions on the person they’re interacting with.

[–] federatingIsTooHard 0 points 11 months ago (3 children)

finally, someone took the time to unpack the lie of sealioning

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I'll be blunt: the fact that you and @[email protected]

  • "coincidentally" hit the same month-old thread, one 3h after another
  • with "coincidentally" similar writing styles
  • "coincidentally" having the same view on the topic at hand

makes me a bit suspicious that you're the same person agreeing with themself.

If you are not the same person I apologise. But even then you can see how fishy it is.

[–] federatingIsTooHard 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

tell me which of my comments are 200 words with correct capitalization.

you are paranoid

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

If I were to be paranoid I'd be claiming that you're coming "after me". I don't - my hypothesis is simply that it's a single muppet trying to reinforce the standing of their own opinion, based on the coincidences that I've listed.

And, again: if you are indeed two different individuals, I apologise. The differences in capitalisation and text length are a fair point.

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