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[–] Gabu 30 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Heads-up, there appears to be some astroturfing going around. This is not an impressive demo, I've seen better without brain implants. If anything, I'm more impressed that the test subject hasn't died yet.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 7 months ago (3 children)

I've seen better without brain implants.

Yeah, I've heard that they have technology that allows you to play Mario Kart with your hands.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Holy shit did Lord Musk invent hand implants? I remember the Over-The-Arm Manipulators patent but I didn't think that OTAM technology would go anywhere.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

That's a baby's toy!

[–] approxamatrix 1 points 7 months ago

I'm using tilt controls !

[–] vallode 12 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

I agree, this is not ground breaking in terms of BCIs (in general, maybe in how intrusive it was compared to standard projects using an EEG). Plenty[1] of YouTube videos on mapping certain brain waves to buttons.

[1]: Playing Video Games With Mind Control

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Commenting to remind myself later because I'd love to check into this. My hands are achy from years of overuse, so an alternative to physical controls would be amazing.

[–] vallode 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

At the end of the day this company is pouring a ton of money into a technology that could use it, I'm incredibly excited for the accessibility potentials but just so scared of the malpractices that might (and probably will) be going on. Sadly I think most of the "external" BCIs are in the "study" phase rather than any sort of production. If you do find something that is consumer available, please let me know!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Looks like the headset she's wearing in that video (EPOC X - 14 channel EEG headset) is available from Emotiv for $1k, and the software she's using to map controls (EmotivBCI) is something they provide for free. They have 2 and 5 channel headsets for cheaper and 32 channel caps that are more expensive. Seems pretty consumer-ready to me, but I'm sure your EEG activity data gets shared with Emotiv, which isn't ideal.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I've seen better without brain implants.

Yes but I can drive a car without brain implants. Doing it with brain implants is the impressive bit.

Really not quite sure what your point is

[–] Gabu -3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Reading comprehension? It's obviously implied that I've seen better with OTHER neural sensors, not someone just playing normaly.

[–] schmidtster 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Got a link to share? Nothing else can do analog inputs like neurolink can, so would love to see this tech that isn’t even been talked about yet that you’re spouting all over this thread.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

We've been able to stick an electrode to the outside of your head and pull electrical activity data from your brain without invasive open-skull surgery for a couple decades now. Neuralink hasn't actually accomplished anything new except making this same thing way, way more expensive and way, way more likely to end in death of the patient.

[–] schmidtster 0 points 7 months ago

Those are all binary outputs, neurolink allows analog.

Totally different goals, so no nothing else exists currently.