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i said this in a reply, but think it's important enough so I'll put it on its own too.
to me, this is very reminiscent of the paradox of tolerance. just because we want an open platform doesn't mean we need to, or should, support those who do not have that same thing in mind. and allowing it is at the risk of allowing them to operate unencumbered and most likely take advantage of open stance.
Replying here instead of your other reply but yeah it definitely is like the paradox of tolerance but I will also add that for most people an open platform is probably not the #1 priority. I think a lot of people just want to be able to access content and/or update their friends and separating off threads wont help that
However who knows what can happen maybe threads will flop, or maybe they will make the fediverse mainstream and we will have the interconnectedness that we all want
At the end of the day though, some servers will block threads and some wont but with enough options everyone can join a server that fits their needs and that really is what the fediverse is about
I feel like if you want to update your friends, an anonymous forum is not the greatest place to do that and I certainly don't want the fediverse to be about attaching your name to something.
Personally, I've never had a Facebook account and have no interest in their offerings. Nothing of worth seems to have ever come out of that place.
yeah, i think it's totally fine that most people don't have being "open" as a priority. and to me, those people will continue to ride the waves of social media enshittification until they realize what's going on and look for something different (much like many of us here have done).
i think we have a chance to have a community break away from that. but giving the big players the ability to rally the masses and own most of the communities and content we end up interacting with is how we set ourselves up to be extinguished. maybe we will be able to avoid this by making sure we are interacting with many diverse instances, but only time can tell. the one thing we can be sure of is that meta and any others will be attempting to monopolize the platform.
yeah true, this part will be very interesting. i am just glad to be a part of a community with a common goal of being open and having discussions like this about what that means. i think that common ideal might actually have the potential to keep it together long term. and i think that's worth fighting for.