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ffs, William Spaniel already made a video about this. Ukraine is only targeting Russian oil because the US is withholding military aid. There's no incentive for Ukraine to weaken its war efforts and keep oil prices low, if the US isn't going to give Ukraine anything in return. You can't go around complaining about the economic impact of a WAR.
It's just hilarious that the US will bomb Nordstream and push Europe into crisis, whilst resisting any action that might raise their oil prices in the election year.
Just so one-sided it's incredible.
It's not yet proven that it was the US, no? I mean, I wouldn't be surprised at all, but I still don't know that's a fact.
Fact? It's a full fledged conspiracy theory, with zero actual proof supporting it.
You mean like all the other conspiracy theories about the USA?
That they secretly made a weapons deal with Iran to get money to support the Contras in Nicaragua for example. That they helped to kill democratically elected Allende and install the dictator Pinochet. That they staged a false flag operation to take over the Vietnam war from the French. That they helped take down democratically elected Mossadegh in Iran and install the Shah. That they produced false evidence as pretext to invade Irak. Two times. That they tried many times to assassinate Fidel Castro.
Sorry, but things happening in the world matching American interests makes me suppose they did it. I am convinced they did it. I am old, I can’t wait 30 years for the archives to open till I blame somebody.
They did it!
Most people suspect it was Ukraine, honestly. But there's a bunch of people who will try to blame America every chance they get.
If Ukraine did it it definitely wasn’t without American support and advice.
I have yet to see an argument of how Ukraine has the capability to do it: The explosions are consistent with two depth charges being put squarely on top of the pipelines. Not just dropped, that would've been less accurate. Those things are huge and heavy you'd either need a team of divers and lots of time, or a submarine. The number of actors with capability to do it that way isn't exactly large, and Ukraine isn't really on it. Germany and Russia certainly is, US -- I doubt it. They're not good at all at sneaky submarines and nothing goes past the Danes or through the Kiel channel without being detected while a medium-sneaky Russian sub could've done it as it's already in the Baltic Sea, anyway.
Yeah thats a good point. It was mostly the newspapers here in Sweden saying that Ukraine was the top suspect. I believe they thought the charges were set with divers, no Submarine involved, but maybe there's been more analysis since then.