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This whole system is purely designed to keep a few people in power and it is fucking insane. We wouldn't even have the internet if a governmental institution hadn't created it, because the free market deemed it unprofitable. How can we as a society achieve progress like that?

I am constantly surrounded by people that defend free market capitalism without questioning it nor having independent thoughts about it, even though they are not stupid. I feel constantly alienated because I have to discuss the most ridiculous thing with me peers when I try to show them the massive amount contradictions of this system,, and they just reply that it does not work. Without having a single grasp of how politics work. I don't mean to say that the general population is stupid, but it feels like they are constantly influenced by pro-capitalist information sources. I don't know, I regularly question my beliefs and apply constructive criticism to my thoughts, but I always come to the same conclusion. Am I getting insane, or am I just to alienated?

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nice! You can go at yout own pace, of course, and glad to see the lib-to-left pipeline is chugging along!

If you're interested in recommendations, there are 3 that I recommend to folks, and in no particular order (really, whatever sounds best to you):

  • Blackshirts and Reds by Michael Parenti. It does an efficient and readable deconstruction of the opposing forces of socialists and reactionaries, with a particular emphasis on a (more accurate) rundown of socialism in the 20th century. I end uo recommendinf this book to the largest number of people regardless of how left they are.

  • State and Revolution by Lenin. While it is very much embedded in its time, it is still quite relevant and also surprisingly readable. Most folks are surprised to learn that Lenin talked about so many things still relevant (or at least with corrolaries) today. It's also very useful for understanding where a lot of people around here are coming from, and can be particularly handy for understanding Trotskyists, which you will likely run into in any Western irl organizing context.

  • Capital Volumes 1-3, Karl Marx (hey that's me). This is... not incredibly approachable, but can be tackled by anyone given a little dedication. It is also a product of its time, an earlier stage of capitalism when it was still stamping out outright feudalism (Lenin was also in that context in Tsarist Russia), but it is a work that, if you really get on top of it, will give you something like superpowers when it comes to recogning features of capitalism and reaching reasonable conclusions about it - and what to do about it. It is also invaluable for understanding what Marxists are talking about. Also, a little secret: most self-proclaimed Marxists have never read these books and make mistakes about them in the regular. And even if they read Capital, they usually stop after Volume 1. Even big names, like David Harvey, tend to reveal substantial misunderstandinfs of the work. Unfortunately the best thing to do is still to slog through the original works. It does pay off, though, I promise. As a bonus, you can dunk on every lib that ever criticizes Marx, as they are wrong 99% of the time and you'll have receipts.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Last I heard capital recommended the person said chapters 1-4.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Chapters or volumes? If chapters, that's an odd place to stop imo. If volumes... well I guess they like Kautsky lol

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Chapters, they said that’s where the essential stuff is if your not going to read the whole thing.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In that case I wouldn't recommend Capital at all. You'd be suffering through a challenging work just to pick up 1/10th of it and are almost guaranteed to think Marx overlooked a lot of things. Instead, some kind of summary will be better. Maybe the Heinrich introduction followed by reading Michael Roberts to counter some of Heinrich's anti-ML, anti-TRPF ideas.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Huh, I may have been misremembering, so idk. I’ve personally read a summary book of capital and grundrisse, and have a copy of vol 1, but am scared to open it.