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I've heard conflicting things about their political orientation.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

proletarians would end up having to crush them and dispose of their unprincipled practices, right?

This cracker mentality is exactly why they don't take marxists seriously.

they are not trying to build any kind of solidarity with other colonized people in Mexico

They will if those people try to do things their own way, but as it stands they have enough on their plate holding their own border (similar to Cuba, which sends aid but not soldiers due to US pressure). It's like asking a starving man why he won't donate to charity while doing nothing yourself, and why Galeano calls out the Basque revolutionaries who pointed a finger while failing to take root in their own territory. They haven't shown they can do the work, while the EZLN has. You are the chauvinist he is addressing in his letter.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Lovely racial slur. I have been advocating on their behalf, sent money to them, and bought their coffee as well. I'm sorry to have criticisms of them, but they have been isolating themselves deliberately, which is an error. I admire the Cubans for sending aid to people who show no solidarity with them and denounce their movement, which is the right choice to make.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's a slur, if a weak one. But sure, advocating a broader movement built on their successes is chauvinist, I guess.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

You are a cracker who thinks buying coffee and posting online are revolutionary activities

[–] Ya_Boy_Skinny_Penis 0 points 1 year ago

And the most effort you've put into anything is impotent shitposting, so tone it down, kettle.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

It's all I can do short of flying there and picking up a rifle. I'm in and have been in a couple of orgs in real life that have given messages of support their way. What have you done for them?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Correct me if I’m wrong, but if they wouldn’t participate in a proletarian state in the event of one being formed in Mexico, proletarians would end up having to crush them and dispose of their unprincipled practices, right?

I'm not the one fantasizing about crushing indigenous peoples if they don't comply

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I'm not fantasizing about it, I was asking if it might have to happen. This is not the same as saying that it is should happen, this is wondering if conflict between militant non-Marxists and militant Marxists might come to pass, as it often has before. I reiterate, in what way have you done more than me?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

NORMAL PEOPLE do NOT go around "asking questions" about whether or not indigenous people should be crushed

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

lmao I thought you were engaging in good faith until you said cracker is a slur

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Like I said, it is a weak one, but it is none the less childish to call someone you disagree with names like this.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I'm not getting into the weeds about this with a stranger, but it's apparent that you don't understand that simply using mean name calling against the people in power is not the same as the people in power using hate speech to further their systemic order based on bigotry. You can't be racist to white people as long as white supremacy is the status quo.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

What power do I have? I'm not a mod of any kind here, and if I had any power in society do you think I would be here? I'll grant I'm privileged, but power is something else that I neither have nor want.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It legitimately cannot be possible to be this fucking dense

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Do you mean like, being white I have the power to commit hate crimes? I mean, suppose, but like I said I wouldn't want to do that kind of thing any way.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That's not what is being said, you dense fuck. Calling "cracker" a slur is fucking stupid, because White supremacy is still entrenched as the dominant ideology in the US.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Would you prefer I said epithet? Is that more accurate?

You're right about white supremacy, didn't I essentially acknowledge that with my comment?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

didn’t I essentially acknowledge that with my comment?

NO

I’ll grant I’m privileged, but power is something else that I neither have nor want.

Privilege IS power

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I've understood privilege in the context I am talking about, white racial privilege, to mean exemption from certain oppressions that others face rather than some sort of dispensation of power (of course other than to commit hate crimes and such). If that's an insufficient understanding, would you care to clarify?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Do you genuinely not comprehend that by having privilege, by being exempt from oppression, as you yourself have just stated, you have more power?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I guess? It seems like this could really just be a misunderstanding of terms here. When you said power I thinking of power as being something I can exercise or use, especially on or to someone or something. I am explicitly acknowledging that I have the power to do/say a broad number of things that could hurt many people and get away with it, I am aware from statistics that I have access to more financial resources than many people in this country so I have at least some economic power, and I am aware that the majority of that money ultimately comes from exploitation of oppressed peoples here and abroad. This kind of power and others I didn't list, I have, absolutely. I guess I was thinking you meant something a little more explicit, as you did accuse me of being CIA earlier.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

as you did accuse me of being CIA earlier.

No, see, what I meant is that you are a buffoon doing the CIA's job for free, and you should definitely apply for a career.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yeah, the CIA famously hires MLs. Are you seriously claiming that my mild criticism is tantamount to the actions worst criminal organization in world history? Hell, this is the 101 sub, you're supposed to be allowed to get something wrong. Your constant name calling is one of the most childish things I've ever experienced from a leftist. While I'm not judging your ideas by the way you're presenting them, some people will, and I hope you rethink that approach to correcting people.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You are a White supremacist and you would fit right in with those bastards

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

You argue for the crushing of indigenous people, you engage in White chauvinism, you attack everyone who has called you out on your bullshit, and you play dumb regarding your passive support of White supremacy by going "well, at least I'm not actively murdering minorities!"

You literally sound like a fucking colonial officer, for fuck's sake

You are scum and will rot in hell next to Hitler