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[–] radicalautonomy 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

And, yet, a lot of us don't give a shit if parades hurt our image with the cishets. Pride is for us. We could all show up wearing Mennonite clothing...overalls for mascs and androgynes and ankle length denim skirts for femmes...no flags, no banners, no music, no dancing, no PDA, no hand holding, nothing...just a bunch of queers in modest clothing going for a walk on a Saturday afternoon, and there would still be a large contingent of conservative cishets who would take offense just because we dare to exist outside.

The whole lot of them can get fucked.

[–] solarbabies -3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

If you don't give a shit what cishets think, then IMO you need to exit the fantasy world you live in and wake up to the real world where trans people are still getting fucking murdered...

This is what pisses me off about so many members of this community, you like to pretend we've already won and that cishets aren't currently threatening to take over this country and reverse the policies we worked so hard to pass for the last 50 years!

Come back when you're ready to have a productive conversation about the advancement of our collective rights, and not your selfish desire to feel good in public no matter what others say.

[–] radicalautonomy 5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

You're not listening. No one cares about your opinion. We're gonna do us, you go and do you, and the bigots will hate all of us just as they have for centuries.

[–] solarbabies -2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I don't need you to care about my opinion. I need you to care about more members of the community than just yourself. Which I can see is impossible for you.

[–] radicalautonomy 6 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

I am trans. My kids are both trans. My best friend is trans. Two of their very good friends are trans. We all absolutely see what is happening in society. We got it. We're right there with you. We just aren't going to be fucking cowards like you and kowtow to bigots. We're not gonna Oliver Twist them and beg for a few rights. We're going to exist as fabulously as we want to, and they can either keep pissing and moaning, or they can just accept that we exist and have rights. And if they try to take those rights, well...leftists have guns too, you know.

[–] solarbabies -1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

I'm a coward?

Is it being a coward to go up against the prevailing viewpoint in a community, and receive tons of downvotes while asking community members to consider whether the actions they're taking are helping or hurting them?

Is it being a coward to face those who would oppose you head on (e.g. cishets), and try to engage with them productively, instead of pretending they don't exist?

Before you resort to name calling, take a look in the mirror, my friend.

And if you want a d*CK measuring contest: I'm bi. My mom is bi. My sibling is trans. My cousin is trans. What's ur point?

One more thing: Saying leftists have guns too... starting to sound fascist to you yet??

[–] radicalautonomy 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Man, you really are an idealogue, aren't you? Just absolutely convinced you are right, that other people should do exactly as you believe, huh? You might want to see a counselor about that or else you're gonna have a miserable life not getting what you want all the time.

try to engage with them productively, instead of pretending they don't exist?

You're the kind of person who would tell Black community leaders to go sit down with white supremacists to try to get them to listen to their needs., 😂

Newsflash, genius: Bigots see us as subhuman. Literally. There's no "engaging with them productively" when they don't see you as an equal and deserving of the same rights they enjoy. Having those conversations is the duty of allies, not the oppressed themselves. The job of the oppressed is to refuse to submit.

[–] solarbabies 0 points 8 months ago

I think you might be the one needing therapy, my friend, if you are so quick and eager to judge strangers you don't know on the Internet. 😊

Otherwise such erratic behavior gone unchecked might lead to a lifetime of frustration due to an inability to make friends or make progress toward your goals. 😊

I am content with my life, can you say the same?

And news flash, genius: by your definition, everyone is a bigot because we all fall into the trap of dehumanizing others.

Ever heard of the saying, "Hurt people, hurt people."?

Silent bigots are turned into dangerous bigots when they are subject to bigotry themselves.