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Will this instance be joining the fedipact? (vlemmy.net)

submitted 2 years ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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I've been hearing that Meta (Facebook) intends to join the fediverse. I have some very big concerns about that, as do apparently many others. There exists a group of instances called the fedipact which will not be federating with Meta, and I was wondering if this instance would be joining. So there is no ambiguity with this post: I have no desire to participate in any instance that is federated with Facebook, and will kindly pass on another Eternal September. Hope that doesn't come off as aggressive, that's just where I'm at.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Eh, like in the previous hread about defederating from Burggit I'm against defederating in general. Heck I picked this instance in particular because it wasn't blocking anyone and wasn't blocked by anyone, so it gave me the most flexibility in what I could see.

I'd change my position if and when Meta makes any proprietary changes to the protocol or seemingly intentional "misimplementations" of it that impact interoperability.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Came to add exactly this! I looked at a table of instances and only considered ones that had few blocks when I was signing up. I'm not sure if I should be so quick to turn around on that principle unless there's a concrete reason too.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Same, if needed, I want to be the one doing the blocking. It's not like I'm averae to the idea of blocking, but I like being the one shaping what I can see and what I won't

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

same, but i have to add

I’d change my position if and when Meta makes any proprietary changes to the protocol or seemingly intentional “misimplementations” of it that impact interoperability.

This implies that the problem will come after they try to change anything. However, there are many things they can do without changing the protocol.

With their growth in population they can create centralized communities that others will follow or try to participate in. This ecosystem, once acquired, can be ransomed for favors. What happens when Facebook implies, not through an announcement but through precedent, that anyone who doesn't defederate Burggit will lose access to certain communities that are now big enough to be "core" communities?
Other stuff I can't be bothered to type but can be summed up as "through sheer size and force, their power will grow until their reach is so deep entrenched into our lair, that our walls will turn to acid and our halls the beast's stomach."

that having been said, i couldn't give two shits about meta so i don't think we should be preemptively trying to defederate without even thinking about it thoroughly. I'm personally, similarly to you, here cuz I don't want defederations to happen. Hopefully we stay free. :)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Enjoy your corporations and hate speech then!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Why do you think I'm here if not for that? 😎😎 I come for the promise of being threatened with genocide and slavery for being a minority. If not for that I'd be on Reddit, being safe and all! No, being abused has its own joys in life and I am not one to be left out.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

The thing is a database can be used from different applications, so it can have a normal lemmy/mastodon instance working on it and other applications that only read and analyze data.

If meta is putting it's dirty hands on this it's to male profit and violate our privacy. If we federate with it it will have access to our data as well to analyze. I dont want that.