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[–] Stamets 53 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Same way so many gay people are racist too or that you have so many classist or ableist gays. People just often don't care about what doesn't affect them. Hypocrisy is common as hell in humanity. We're all guilty of it to some extent, usually though it's very minor and in the background. But whether it's big or small people often ignore their own hypocrisies. This shit is just blatant in the gay community. I think they do have the self-awareness of realizing the same arguments are used against them. They just don't care.

[–] CleoTheWizard 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Not to justify any of it, but this is very much the thoughts of past generations. We complain about these ideals but this has always been the prevailing thought until very recently.

I’m not saying there’s zero examples of communities bridging, it was a long way to get where we are. But I’d say it’s only in the last 10, maybe even 5 years that I’ve seen communities begin to finally work together on collective equalities.

To everyone that does not understand this fully, myself included, the main point I’ve been told is that each groups struggle was entirely separate. When you’re a minority, you’re not about to take up the baggage and arguments used against other groups. And then you turn on other minority groups to divert attention or because again, their struggle isn’t your problem.

None of this is right or helpful. I say this only because many of our groups are gaining in privileges compared to others. This IS THE TIME to elevate everyone instead of running away with it and diminishing others.

[–] lady_maria 5 points 8 months ago

Yeah, it can be easy to forget how much public opinion has changed for the better within the last couple of decades because of how bleak everything feels right now. It's probably important to remember that.

I say this only because many of our groups are gaining in privileges compared to others. This IS THE TIME to elevate everyone instead of running away with it and diminishing others.

Absolutely. Too many people ignore the fact that the systemic struggles of all oppressed groups are tied to everyone else's, if only because they're all perpetuated by the same systems and mindsets.

They're focusing their attention on the wrong people and things, but I guess feeling superior to others makes them feel better about their own struggles and privileges.

(Also... love your PFP! I adored the Sly games as a kid!!!)