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[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

As far as I can see from the mod logs, your last ml bans expired 2 days ago (and were probably due to saying negative things about a couple of specific countries).

Blocking is strange though and doesn't really censor well. There's a guy from kbin who likes to vociferously troll in ml and has been perma banned from it but everyone in kbin can still see and interact with his posts when we go into ml threads, much to everyone's irritation.

I think the fediverse's strength is that it's decentralized. Blocking and defederating doesn't silence people, it just changes who can see them from where.

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

You have to actually go look at the .ml mod logs specifically. That's another thing which is quite weird and suspicious. Certain .ml actions don't seem to appear in the federated modlog. This example is particularly spooky because it was via a .world thread.

It kind of seems like a bug tbh. Like they have a tool to sanitize the mod logs, but it doesn't change the local copy for whatever reason. IDK. Honestly the shady shit on .ml has really turned me off of fediverse to a large degree. I lasted on Reddit for 15 years without getting any bans, and now this supposed post-censorship community has me marked for reasons I can't quite figure out and nobody will explain.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

I did go and look at them on their instance though (I'm on Kbin so doing that is the best way to see that stuff). I searched by your name both in this sub (no bans) and on the instance (expired bans, but I didn't exactly go through it with a fine tooth comb). I saw the screenshotted.

Like I said I can see you here right now, just fine. The lemmy devs are the admin mods on the ml instance and it's well known they have certain political rules. They are marxist leninist. If you're repeatedly catching bans from them it's probably best to concentrate more on other big instances that don't come with that.

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yeah it's weird that you can see the posts. They are definitely hidden when I view this thread from other accounts.

It's just kind of shitty going around and participating and trying to help grow a platform which doesn't want me here for some reason, and to be just randomly banned from places without any knowledge or warning, and to only figure it out because my posts aren't getting any engagement. I honestly didn't realize I'd clicked on a .ml link. I actually have been avoiding stirring the pot on .ml, but this ban was from a .world thread and was a pretty tame joke. It's incredibly frustrating and a bit disturbing to be targeted like this, and I can't help but think the public voting has something to do with it.

I'd happily live and let live with the .ml politics. I'm not trying to tell them how to think. I'm trying to grow their platform. I don't like this idea of excusing them for this kind of behavior like so many people on here do. It's hypocritical, petty and very shady and the people who are ultimately in charge of this technology should be held to a higher standard.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

Iโ€™m not trying to tell them how to think. Iโ€™m trying to grow their platform

I think the part you are missing is they only want ml platform growth from users they don't see as being impolite or bigoted towards the political apparatus of China.

This isn't in the nature of an "excuse", it's an explanation. The fediverse isn't the old model where a company serves the public.

In terms of responsibility for tech itself, when the reddit exodus to the fediverse began, a number of people saw the Lemmy dev committment to marxist leninism as antithetical to the views they themselves wanted to espouse, and opted for other ActivityPub tech like Miskey, Mastodon, or Kbin instead.