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Hey guys. I'm curious about this type of scenario, because I see two ways of approaching it and neither seems like the best way.

Legend for the photo: MUP = multiuse path; SW = sidewalk; BL = bike lane (sharrows, but it turns to a bike lane).

Assuming you were on the MUP going north, and wanted to turn onto the bike lane heading west.

What's the best/safest/legal way to do this?

A. Use the crosswalk (not a crossride, so you'd need to get off your bike and walk) and position yourself on the lane facing west?

B. Turn from the MUP straight into the bike lane on a green? This would mean going across two lanes.

C. Position on the left turn lane of the road, and make the left turn from that lane? Cars turning right don't make this easy or safe.

For context, there is a bus route going south to north, and this particular road has a lot of speeders. What I'd think would be safe, usually isn't.

If this were an intersection with cyclists in mind, it would have a large green box for cyclists to move into to make the turn safely. In that case, I'd think C would be the most ideal. But without that, what's the next best?

I tend to choose A at this particular intersection, but that's nearly gotten me run over by people turning left from the north side.

Thoughts?

EDIT: Thank you for all the input, guys. I will stick with "A" (which is a Copenhagen left turn), and will suggest to my city to add a proper green painted bike box at this intersection for cyclists to safely make these turns.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I don't like mixing with the cars so anything that is not that. I'd probably wait to reach the end of MUP and take whichever green light is on. Either the left or the front crosswalk. And then wait on the opposite side for the other green light.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

That's what I do, unless there's no traffic. But in most cases A is dangerous thanks to people turning either left or right. Cars approaching the stop from the east side also have a habit of going way past that painted line and into the crosswalk. I've thrown my hands up at so many people while trying to walk across that section.