163
New Zealand to seize black boxes from LATAM Boeing 787 as passengers recount incident
(www.reuters.com)
this post was submitted on 12 Mar 2024
163 points (98.2% liked)
World News
39386 readers
2864 users here now
A community for discussing events around the World
Rules:
-
Rule 1: posts have the following requirements:
- Post news articles only
- Video links are NOT articles and will be removed.
- Title must match the article headline
- Not United States Internal News
- Recent (Past 30 Days)
- Screenshots/links to other social media sites (Twitter/X/Facebook/Youtube/reddit, etc.) are explicitly forbidden, as are link shorteners.
-
Rule 2: Do not copy the entire article into your post. The key points in 1-2 paragraphs is allowed (even encouraged!), but large segments of articles posted in the body will result in the post being removed. If you have to stop and think "Is this fair use?", it probably isn't. Archive links, especially the ones created on link submission, are absolutely allowed but those that avoid paywalls are not.
-
Rule 3: Opinions articles, or Articles based on misinformation/propaganda may be removed. Sources that have a Low or Very Low factual reporting rating or MBFC Credibility Rating may be removed.
-
Rule 4: Posts or comments that are homophobic, transphobic, racist, sexist, anti-religious, or ableist will be removed. “Ironic” prejudice is just prejudiced.
-
Posts and comments must abide by the lemmy.world terms of service UPDATED AS OF 10/19
-
Rule 5: Keep it civil. It's OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It's NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.
-
Rule 6: Memes, spam, other low effort posting, reposts, misinformation, advocating violence, off-topic, trolling, offensive, regarding the moderators or meta in content may be removed at any time.
-
Rule 7: We didn't USED to need a rule about how many posts one could make in a day, then someone posted NINETEEN articles in a single day. Not comments, FULL ARTICLES. If you're posting more than say, 10 or so, consider going outside and touching grass. We reserve the right to limit over-posting so a single user does not dominate the front page.
We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.
All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.
Lemmy World Partners
News [email protected]
Politics [email protected]
World Politics [email protected]
Recommendations
For Firefox users, there is media bias / propaganda / fact check plugin.
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/media-bias-fact-check/
- Consider including the article’s mediabiasfactcheck.com/ link
founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
I can only see three incidents with 787 on wikipedia:
This does not looks like a repeating pattern. The Flight 800 was a 300ft drop midair with around 30 to 40 people hitting the ceiling of the cabin and landing in Auckland without further problems. This does not sound 787 related. Just keep your seatbelts on.
The 2024 TCAS incident reads like a near collision based on miscommunication by air traffic control. Not related to the 787 series.
And well the 2013 787 grounding was based on lithium-ion batteries problems and has now been fixed (?).
I would say relax and keep your seatbelts buckled (disregarding what airframe you are on).
They hit the ceiling and landed in aukland? Damn thats one help of a bump.
50 people were injured including crew
10 were sent to hospital
1 is in a serious condition.
True, as it says in the wikipedia I linked. But is has nothing do to with the 787. This could happen to any plane and in fact does happen on many planes in the past and future. A drop because of airpocket and turbulence are very common.
It's the failure to detect and warn people to belt in advance which is the unusual part, and that's what caused most of the injuries.
Is this even detectable ahead of time? The crew has always said to remain buckled while seated from what I remember, even if the seatbelt light is off.
I'm a New Zealander so been on a lot of longhaul. Normally you have seatbelts on whenever you're not roaming around.
However, when there's real turbulence the light goes on and the pilot announces return to your seats and stow away tray tables (if no meals are out). Cabin crew then strap themselves in.
You cant always detect turbulence before you run into it
No, but the severity of this event is unusual enough that it's subject to enquiry.
If it does turn out to be equipment failure (and that seems likely given reports of what the pilot said) it's worth knowing about.
Absolutely, there just seems to be some in this thread (I had assumed including yourself after reading your comment) that believed all turbulence could be detected before hand.