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Anyone else using the standard edition of DDDL having recent issues with the loss of Parameter access and other key features on Detroit / Freightliners?

First issue I ran into a while back was with replacing an ACM on one of our trucks. The ability to have the ACM programmed at FL, shipped to me and then resetting the Ash Accumulator at our shop was removed from the Standard DDDL software. After nearly a week of dealing with that shit, Detroit finally temporarily upgraded our software to the Professional version and still, the option to 'Replace ACM' is no longer available in the Standard edition.

Fast forward to now, I have a truck that I need to install fog lamps in. So, I need to turn on its Parameter options in the SAMCAB module. All of the parameters in the SAMCAB, SAMCHASSIS, MSF and ICU are no longer available in the Standard Edition software. This literally guts my ability to do many of my required duties at my job as a heavy truck mechanic. These were all modifiable parameters in Standard Edition in the fairly recent past. This really puts me at an unacceptable disadvantage for the work that I do. I'm turning a very significant amount of my outside labor time on work that requires me to have access to Parameters and Options. It's also killing the work I am able perform on our personal fleet trucks as well.

Are any of you mechanics facing this dilemma, as well? Or have any information that may be helpful in my situation? Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.

If this is posted in the wrong place, any idea where I might better post it? I haven't found any heavy truck threads on Lemmy, yet.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I used to work for Detroit 10 years ago and even then we had all the software paywalled or subscription models.

I dont agree with it, but there's not much that can be done unfortunately.

I work for Liebherr now and its the same with all the machines now. Without the proprietary software the general mechanic cant fix anything to do with ecm or software issues.

Even replacing injectors now need to be programmed otherwise they dont fire.

Im sorry I don't have any help for you but best of luck with it.

[–] LoraxEleven 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Right, Detroit injectors have a trim code as well these days. They'll usually fire without it, but economy is shit. Friend of mind had a situation where a Volvo went into no start due to missing trim codes on an injectors and cups job. What a fuckin mess things are in. It's been heading this way for a long time. I remember seeing some Liebherr units in the coalfields but never got the opportunity to wrench on any, hate to hear they're taking the same road. As a non affiliated mechanic, my days may be numbered just like those old coalfields. Sad shit.

Looking like we're going to be forced into buying Professional version software from Detroit. I just don't see any other way.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

Yeah it is a shame, unfortunately it all makes business sense though fo the manufacturers.

Make something only you can fix and they have to come back for repeat business, although im pretty sure car manufacturers were getting in trouble for it, but providing subscription based access was the work around for them.

It really is anti competition though.