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YSK: Signal is a great secure private messenger app comparable to others on the market. (restoreprivacy.com)

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"When you use Signal, your data is stored in encrypted form on your devices. The only information that is stored on the Signal servers for each account is the phone number you registered with, the date and time you joined the service, and the date you last logged on."

This isn't an ad, I wasn't paid for this post. Just to clear the air: fuck facebook, fuck elon musk and twitter, fuck anyone who thinks this is a paid advertisement. I wish I was paid for this shit, I just wanted to spread the word. Thank you. 😀 👍

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[–] ghariksforge 52 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I have been disappointed by Signal a lot.

They tie themselves very closely with Google services, to the point that they refuse to be on FDroid by design
There was a long period when they stopped publishing server side code when they were bashing others like Telegram for not open sourcing their server side code
Their Linux desktop client is absolutely horrible.

[–] pallas 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

They tie themselves very closely with Google services, to the point that they refuse to be on FDroid by design

While they do push the Play Store version, they also have an APK, and my understanding is that it does not rely on Google Play Services, though it might be buggier without them. If I recall correctly, the origin of Signal not being on F-Droid was related to the building and signature model that F-Droid used (builds by F-Droid, then signed by F-Droid's keys), as mentioned in, eg, this issue. With that said, it has been pointed out that there are alternatives, like a separate repository, than, eg, the Guardian Project uses, and F-Droid apparently does now have a process for developer-signed apks.

Their general hostility toward outside developers and forks, however, and that the awkward server side code availability seemed to be related to the brazenly problematic cryptocoin advertisement, are extremely disappointing, however.

[–] cdog 4 points 1 year ago

Just to confirm what you said, I used Signal on LineageOS for over 6 months with no Google Play Services (installed through Aurora Store) -- definitely doesn't rely on them.

[–] ghariksforge 3 points 1 year ago

Their general hostility toward outside developers and forks

i forgot about this too. This is extremely disappointing.

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