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I mean, we can absolutely want that. And data farming is bad. Just objectively. Having a conversation in a public area irl isn't consent to being recorded (not that it is always illegal to do so). And Why should it be on the internet? If the delete option doesn't actually delete anything, it should clearly reflect that. I have no idea why you would argue against user control of their data.
This is what the devs are saying: https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/2977#issuecomment-1584337286
I don't want to argue, so I'll end it here.
You can fight for a better implementation, sure. Of course I would not be against that! I just personally fail to see the real issue with the way things are now on a public platform.
But we can, its the internet. Why shouldn't we be able to delete things? I'm not a ceo, I'm not a politician. The world has no vested interest in preserving a post i make. I should have control of my data. I seriously cannot fathom how anyone could possibly argue otherwise. I'm an ordinary civilian, and my data should belong to me and I should be able to have it deleted if I so choose. Note that every single massive social media platform essentially by law has to provide you means to do this. Lemmy should not be exempt from this. Whats the point of leaving reddit to join another platform that doesn't respect its user base? It's nonsense.
And I never said it was illegal (I specified the opposite actually), but its obviously wrong to walk up to 2 people sitting on a park bench having a quiet conversation between the two of them and record it without even asking them.
Nice that you didn't comment on the fact that this is essentially law for every other social media platform lol.
Having control of my data means having control of my data, not having the ability to not post.
How you can perceive this as entitlement is beyond me. "When I delete something on this website can it actually be deleted?" How is that entitled??
You don't think recording people is morally wrong? You should try it sometime. I'm sure they'll completely agree. ๐
I dont care if someone screenshots it, thats not what we're talking about. Nice strawman. I'm saying that when I delete something, it should be deleted. I cant do anything about screenshots nor do I care. By all means, record everything I say here if that interests you. When I hit delete, I expect what I'm deleting to actually be deleted. Not an image some person took of my comment, the comment itself should be deleted.
You again ignored 90% of what I said, made a strawman and acted like you said something insightful when you beat it. Were not talking about screenshots, were talking about the delete function.
If your next comment isn't an actual argument for why Lemmy should be exempt from the industry wide standard of user data control, then dont bother sending it. Youre just making yourself look ridiculous.