this post was submitted on 28 Feb 2024
433 points (96.4% liked)

linuxmemes

19747 readers
1897 users here now

I use Arch btw


Sister communities:

Community rules

  1. Follow the site-wide rules and code of conduct
  2. Be civil
  3. Post Linux-related content
  4. No recent reposts

Please report posts and comments that break these rules!

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 

Yes, I made it using a laptop's trackpad, how could you tell?

[Image description: Panel 1: Young man confidently walking, his vest bears the Wayland logo. Behind him is a grunt with the Gnome logo on his face holding a katana. The young man says: "It's high time you retire, old man!" Panel 2: An old man with a long beard and the Xorg logo on his chest is sitting on a throne and petting a rat, the XFCE mascot. He says: "It's still a hundred years too early for you to defeat me!" ]

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] [email protected] 57 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (17 children)

Wayland gets so many more of the basics so much better than X11 it's not even funny anymore. X11 is stuttery, unsecure, unmaintaned, can't really be updated for new features that are pretty important in 2024 (VRR, HDR). For now with my usage, the only big disadvantage I saw from Wayland is that you can't restart it like X11 when something goes wrong, but that's the thing, I haven't had to restart it like I had to often with X11. Even on Nvidia Wayland is better now, except maybe for gaming but that's Nvidia for you.

[–] mlg 2 points 4 months ago (6 children)

10% FPS drop compared to X11 because of perfect frame requirements

X11 has literally never stuttered even on the hack that is WSL

The only time I have actually gotten X11 to crash was an unrelated kernel panic.

Also no one uses X11 networking by default lmao, its always X forward over SSH, that is definitely secure and still something wayland can't do.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

Also no one uses X11 networking by default lmao, its always X forward over SSH, that is definitely secure and still something wayland can’t do.

Sure it can, with waypipe (like, for a while now...)
Just waypipe ssh [command]

You can even run X apps over this through cage even when X11 forwarding is disabled by the host (because, you know, the security issues...)

load more comments (5 replies)
load more comments (15 replies)