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[–] spacebanana 20 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

Java is a traditional and conservative language, which has its strong upsides, like the syntax being familiar to many people who haven't used the language before. It's a language that brought us the JVM, gave a job to many people and established fundamentals for other languages to inspire and improve on. If you don't like Java, you can just use another language for the JVM, like Scala, Kotlin or Clojure.

[–] KammicRelief 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

and inspired C#, which is pretty rad! (humble opinion... preparing for downvotes because I don't get the feeling lemmy is where M$ devs hang out)

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Only a fool could miss the value C# has when used to solve the proper problems :)

[–] KammicRelief 1 points 9 months ago

Totally! Thanks 😊

[–] [email protected] -1 points 9 months ago

You only named one upside, I can't think of any other, and C-like syntax is pretty common, so it's not much of an upside. It's at least debatable whether the JVM is a good thing at all - the majority of languages get along perfectly well without it, and there's no reason to believe the ones that do target it wouldn't be doing just fine if it didn't exist. It's weird to say Java gave a job to anybody - the demand to have software written resulted in programmers being hired; if Java hadn't been pushed on the market by Sun, it would have just been another language. Java didn't establish any fundamentals at all, it just borrowed from other places. While all three of the other languages you mention are interesting, for sure, I'm not sure why somebody who doesn't like Java should limit themselves to JVM languages.