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A reminder to manage your startup apps (lemmy.world)

submitted 10 months ago by The_Picard_Maneuver to c/memes

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[–] rdri 40 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Unironically you're missing the point. The point being, it's not a problem for many apps to start because oh how powerful PCs got. The problem is when some apps use so much resources that regardless of how powerful your PC gets, it's wasteful to have them opened all the time.

Reason for that problem is them using unoptimized frameworks such as Electron and CEF (seriously, check each app on the image).

And main reasons for that are:

Google posing browser component as a GUI framework.
Devs not caring (or being lazy) enough to do native coding.

I wish every person would realize the above so we could force developers do their job better.

[–] Capricorn_Geriatric 12 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Ironically, even if OP missed the point, the apps pictured are resource hogs and all of them don't need to run on starup other than Defender.

Sure, leave OneDrive/Dropbox on if you use it. Leave Spotify if you just need your music to start blasting the second you reach the desktop. If opening Steam and waiting ~30 seconds for the lord Gaben-given daily update is too much of a problem let it do its thing on startup, but who in their right mind needs Soptify, OneNote and all the gaming clients slowing down startup of literally everything?

And CCleaner, McAffee and Adobe can go fuck themselves along wirh Nestle.

[–] rdri 0 points 10 months ago

the apps pictured are resource hogs

I mean I didn't disagree with that.

who in their right mind needs Soptify, OneNote and all the gaming clients slowing down startup of literally everything?

I guess every user who doesn't care enough to check the autorun settings as long as it works. Probably most non-IT specialists.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Devs not caring (or being lazy) enough to do native coding.

"Waaaah waaaah, how else am I supposed to make crossplat code?" - Whines the coder whose product is only available for Android, as an electron app no less, for that one never heard of Dart+Flutter (if i'm not mistaken, the most recent Ubuntu installers interface were made with it), or Delphi/Lazarus (yes, those two use Pascal language), or even Tauri or Neutralino if they code in Javascript.

[–] rdri 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Tried some nice tool (tabame) that uses Dart/Flutter and it immediately uses 250 mb of RAM. No graphical content except some icons in the GUI. As I was going to replace task manager which uses 60 mb, I was not happy.

Wish sciter would be more popular.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

That's a lot of ram usage. Decided to try myself and on the first startup, 118mb ram. Ouch. It did fall to ~50mb after some setup, but that's still quite high, especially compared to my task manager eating around 25mb while open. I somehow also managed to spawn 2 tabame processes, so I guess the program still needs to iron some kinks, to say the least.