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The tragedy occurred Thursday when the child fell into the water and the mother jumped in after him, Swedish Maritime Administration spokesperson Jonas Franzen said. He said the child fell from a height of about 20 meters.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 2 years ago (2 children)

This has been ruled out as an accident by Danish authorities. This is a murder investigation now

[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 years ago (3 children)

The article doesn't say an accident was ruled out. It makes it sound like they do a murder investigation first as a matter of process to rule that out, to me.

Heres another article that mentions police don't think the death is suspicious https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/woman-child-die-falling-ferry-102243820.html

[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That same article also says

"However, Agnieszka Zembrzycka, a Stena Line spokesperson, told Polish media on Friday that the CCTV footage from the ship did not match this version of events."

As in CCTV footage doesn't show a kid accidentally falling in followed by a mother.

Further it was noted by first responders that the woman was unresponsive. No mention on the status of the boy other then both were flown to a hospital. Meaning the boy was either already dead, or was responsive.

My guess is from the context a murder investigation is highly warranted, and the CCTV footage will provide valuable information.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

Ah ok, I admit I didnt notice that bit about the footage. thanks

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 years ago

Form the article you linked:

According to initial media reports, a child had fallen into the sea and the woman had jumped in after him. However, Agnieszka Zembrzycka, a Stena Line spokesperson, told Polish media on Friday that the CCTV footage from the ship did not match this version of events.

Really sad case. Best wait and see how it develops as opposed to making guesses at this time.

[–] wolfpack86 3 points 2 years ago

It is being reported in Denmark that its being investigated as a murder-suicide.

Source: (in danish, but google translate generally functions reasonably well)

https://nyheder.tv2.dk/udland/2023-07-03-d

[–] 2xar 3 points 2 years ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago

This is in Swedish: https://www.svt.se/nyheter/lokalt/blekinge/danska-haverikommissionen-konstaterar-ingen-olycka-vid-fallet-fran-polenfarjan

Google translate:

It was not an accident but a deliberate act, the Danish accident commission stated, which is now closing its investigation into the deaths from the Polen ferry.

  • We have installed surveillance footage, says investigator Morten Frederiksen to SVT.
    A seven-year-old boy and his mother died after they both ended up in the water while on the way by ferry to Karlskrona from Gdynia.
    At first an accident was suspected - but it is now dismissed by the Danish accident commission.

After its investigation, the Danish investigation states that it is instead a matter of deliberate handling, reports P4 Blekinge.

  • It is correct, because we have now put surveillance footage that it was not an accident but a deliberate handling. Therefore, the police are taking over the case for the time being, says Morten Frederiksen, investigator at the Danish accident commission to SVT Blekinge.

Investigated as murder
It was on Thursday last week that the incident occurred. The deceased are Polish citizens and the ferry was on its way to Karlskrona from Poland.
Prosecutor Marie Lindström in Karlskrona has already started a preliminary investigation into murder. At the same time, the prosecutor's office in Gdansk has opened an investigation into murder and suicide, according to the Polish television station Tvn24.

The ferry Stena Spirit, which sails under the Danish flag, is registered in Denmark and is therefore being investigated by the Danish accident commission.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The article says

In a brief statement Friday, Sweden’s Prosecution Authority said it has launched ”a preliminary investigation where the crime classification is murder, but there is no suspect in the case.”

Maybe that is what the person meant or referrence