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Imho, the tories are going to lurch further right, then probably split.
But who knows!

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (2 children)

It doesn't, correct. But my point is that the centre ground has to compromise more because of their very nature. It's inherently less extreme that the far right or far left. Literally by definition.

Whilst there is a danger that "nothing gets done" in a coalition of the centre ground (which I think your poo meme is getting at?) I think the dialogue and willingness to accept compromise is better there. I'd rather have a government and politics on that basis than extreme lurches to the left and right with zero room for compromise if you're not in one group or the other.

So no, it's not a silver bullet. You're right. But that's just where I'd rather be. PR as the form of government election voting in the UK and then to fill the house with a true representation of the country, which I don't believe is as extreme as the current system portrays it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

where do you see the extreme Left manifest itself in British politics?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Mostly at council level. Momentum (and I don't think they'd mind that badge). Recent choice words by Labour councillors. It's thankfully not the norm anymore but it's there.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

have you got some examples?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Compromise is not what is needed, progress is what is needed. You want to maintain a broken status quo with a prettier face

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Compromise is not what is needed, progress is what is needed

The two aren't mutually exclusive.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Yes they are. Compromising with the side that support status quo is inherently against progress

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Yes they are. Compromising with the side that support status quo is inherently against progress

Forgive me but that's a straw man argument. Why assume that parties in the centre want the status quo? That's not what left, right, and centre politics means.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Centrists are opposed to capitalism now?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Eh? 😂 Did I say that? Sorry I'm totally lost now. Care to explain?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Capitalism is the status quo. Progress is wanting to replace it

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Riiiiight. 👍