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[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (2 children)

While I agree with the premise of your argument, most of your points are false. Liquid gasoline doesn't explode and the range of the truck is definitely longer than the range of the EV, regardless of when you recharge/fill up the tank.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Sure, liquid doesn't, just it's vapour. Which of course is constantly evaporating around gasoline. :|

And yes, the range thing was a comparison to "Who cares about range when you're guzzling 40 gallons of gas to get the same range". But even then, I always argue that the range argument is ridiculous anyway. 95% of trips people make are within their town or county, plenty close enough within the range of most EVs. Mine is 260 miles. Tell me who drives 260 miles daily. Even when I lived in a rural small town my commute was an hour and a half, 60 miles each way. That's less than half of my current range.

And for those who are like "But muh roadtrips!" I reply immediately with 1) Most families have 2 cars, the obvious solution is to have one EV for 95% of your driving and keep the old ICE for longer trips or 2) shockingly enough, you can rent a car to go on a roadtrip. Hell I did that already when I went camping. People say "I need a truck for when I go outdoors or move" - but here I've been renting trucks for that for years.

People are so terrified of change that they'll just throw up whatever they can think of (or whatever the oil lobby tells them) rather than think critically. Both of those arguments I've made with gearhead friends, and every time they don't have a response to them. Same as what other people have said below, changing just 10% can have an impact. So for people with big trucks I tell them "no one says get rid of your truck completely, but be smarter about what you drive and when". Commuting? Take an EV. Camping/towing? Sure take the truck. That can have an impact too.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

the range of the truck is definitely longer than the range of the EV

Depends on the truck and EV. Compare a Regular Cab F150 Raptor to a Lucid Air Pure, and the EV probably gets more range. Obviously looking for edge cases that probably aren't the case in Scrumbbles's story, but there's no way you can know the EV's range is shorter from their post. In a couple years, we might have 1000 mile range EVs delivered to customers (and cheaper than the Lucid Air), in which case the range would be more than the majority of ICE vehicles.