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[–] [email protected] 114 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

thats a point in favor of protonmail

makes it actually look like its doing what it promises.

[–] deweydecibel 33 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Should be noted though:

The spokesperson said that Proton received the request from MeitY “a few days ago”. “We are currently working to resolve this situation and are investigating how we can best work together with the Indian authorities to do so. We understand the urgency of the situation and are completely clear that our services are not to be used for illegal purposes. We routinely remove users who are found to be doing so and are willing to cooperate wherever possible within international cooperation agreements,” the spokesperson said.

Although Proton Mail is end-to-end encrypted, which means the content of the emails cannot be intercepted and can only be seen by the sender and recipient if both are using Proton Mail, its privacy policy states that due to the nature of the SMTP protocol, certain email metadata — including sender and recipient email addresses, the IP address incoming messages originated from, attachment name, message subject, and message sent and received times — is available with the company.

Their hands are definitely tied in the situation, they have to comply with them to a degree to operate in the country, I'm not judging them too harshly.

But it is a pretty good reminder that at the end of the day, if you are paying a for-profit business to obfuscate and hide you from a government that has the ability to stop them, their financial incentives will be tested, and they will win out if there isn't some sort of law or regulation to protect them from this type of strong arming.

[–] LordWiggle 14 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I had my concerns when I read this. But in the end, Proton has the best privacy protection out there AFAIK, outside of dark web mailing services maybe. So even though I'm not happy about their reaction (willing to cooperate if legally possible), it's still better then Google, Microsoft or any other mailing service I'm familiar with. I find the services of Proton to be amazing, I won't drop using them. Mail, vpn, drive, agenda, pass. It just works great and I feel safe.

[–] dezmd 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Worrying so much about privacy from your email service and not running your own goddamn email server seems a bit disconnected from the reality of using any cloud services hosted by anyone else at all.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

If they are trustworthy enough for CERN's usage, it's probably better to go with proton than just trusting yourself, and likely cheaper.