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Estonia considers closing its border with Russia (kyivindependent.com)

submitted 10 months ago by [email protected] to c/world

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Estonia announced that the country may be forced to close its border crossing points with Russia due to increased migration pressures, Estonian Police and Border Guard announced on Feb. 13.

"In recent weeks, Russia has deliberately directed to the Estonian border groups of foreigners lacking the legal right to enter the European Union," the statement reads. "If these activities continue, we will be forced to close border crossing points to protect national security and public order, as has already been done in Finland due to migration pressure."

The Estonian government has noted an influx of migrants and asylum seekers from Russia over recent months.

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[–] [email protected] -4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Literarly from the first article: "There is some truth to this. Since the collapse of the Soviet Union, 14 Eastern European countries have joined NATO, four of them bordering Russia. Ukraine requested the chance to join via NATO's Membership Action Plan in 2008, and the country's initiative to join has only intensified since Russia's invasion." In the rest of the article they don't debate about this being a reason for invasion, just claim that some Putin claims that are lies and exagarations (which of course they are, he is a politician). I will not spend time reading other articles since even the first one is clearly irrelevant and strawman, because some lies doesn't mean the whole motivation of fear from NATO is not true. Also there is no other reasonable motivation.

And third link is literarlly from NATO website, its like giving link to Kremlin offical website for arguments against NATO. In which one of the first things that I saw was a obvious lie that NATO is not agressive, which you would have to be living under a rock not to know what NATO states are doing in middle east and millions of civilians they kill.

So as I said, you are a clear NATO warmongering propagandist.

[–] avater 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

So as I said, you are a clear NATO warmongering propagandist.

However, this was also in response to Russia's annexation of Crimea in 2014, which was illegal under international law. The NATO alliance continues to respect the 1997 NATO-Russia Founding Act, which prohibits the additional permanent deployment of substantial combat forces in NATO accession countries. But that has not deterred Putin from his claim that NATO is threatening Russia.

That part must slipped your propaganda infested mind so be so kind and fuck off comrade, I'm done with you.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 10 months ago

If you insult when you are clearly exposed and with clear arguments shown to be wrong, you are showing not only bad intentions, but inability to accept a critique. I didn't escalate this disscussion, you are the one that said to me that I am spreading propaganda. I proved i to be other way around and you can't take the same insult that you unkustifiably directed at me, even though in your case it is true. Calling other people what you are is classic case of projecting your own problems.