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I'm a huge swiftie. That's not a lie. However Taylor's number one issue in my book is her absolute non-caring for the damage she's done to the planet.

This isn't a coincidence. It's not about stalking. Last week she was caught taking a 40 minute flight, releasing more carbon by herself then most of us do in an entire year.

I love Taylor, but it's shameful that she continues to do this. When she dated Joe the tracker showed she flew back and forth between England and New York on average 3 times a week. A week.

And she doesn't even bother to at least buy offsets or something. She could buy massive swaths of rainforest to preserve to make up for it and it'd barely make a dent. She could replant entire forests.

I love Taylor, but I'm ashamed she's hurting the planet so much without seemingly a care - and now trying to sue the people who expose her for it.

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[–] AngryishHumanoid 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Buddy, absolutely nothing of what I described comes anywhere close to what you just posted. You might be the worst armchair lawyer ever. If what you just posted matched to what I described then her lawyers would also be liable for disbarment hearings, that simply is not how it works.

[–] NevermindNoMind 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

Lol I'm a real life lawyer, I'm familiar with how this works, and very familiar with the rules of professional responsibility. So I'll just lay it out for you. No demand letter I have ever written has gone out without my client first reviewing and approving it. I don't need my clients consent for every communication (e.g., if I'm going back and forth with opposing counsel on something, I'm not getting the client's signoff on each email), but at the very least the client is aware of and has approved the strategy I am engaging in and whatever means I'm using to do it. But a demand letter absolutely gets client approval first. Beyond that, i would never contact any person or entity on my clients behalf without their express permission.

The simple fact is no lawyer just does things, particularly not send demand letters, cause they feel like it. Lawyers are agents of their clients, we do what we are asked to do (provided it's legal), nothing more nothing less. The client is the boss, the lawyer is a servant. The lawyer doesn't just do shit on their own.

And all communications must be truthful. Period. Now you can exaggerate for tactical advantage or to press a negotiation. Maybe her lawyer coached a useful answer out of her ("would you say that account posting your flights is causing you stress?") But you absolutely cannot just make up an injury to a client they didn't at least suggest they might have. It doesn't matter if it's a complaint, a demand letter, an email, or a Christmas card. Lawyers cannot just make shit up out of whole cloth.

Now, dem are da rules. Does everybody always follow them exactly? Usually yes, actually. I work with a lot of lawyers, and I've been on the opposite side of some real shitheads. But I can count on one hand the times I've suspected opposing counsel of breaking a rule, including dishonesty. Once actually, there was one time, in my 8 years of practice. I'm sure some scumbags do exist. But Swift is paying top dollar for a respected firm, and they will not risk their licenses or reputation on engaging in some free wheeling strategy to threaten some kid who is already internet famous for this exact thing without the clients explicit consent, especially not by making up emotional distress on behalf of Swift without consulting her first. It's just not going to happen.

[–] AngryishHumanoid 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The main reason I doubt you are a lawyer is that you keep rewording my statements so you can make a different argument that sounds better (to you). If you are a lawyer (lol) you should probably go wait for your phone to ring, it's Trump and you're up next.

[–] NevermindNoMind 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I never once quoted you, so how could I reword your statements? I'm on mobile, it's a pain in the ass to quote someone. Besides your statements are mostly just "nuh uh" what use is there quoting them? I'm not arguing with you. I'm explaining to you how this works.

[–] AngryishHumanoid 2 points 9 months ago

I didn't say you were quoting me, I said you reworded my statements. Hey you did it again!

[–] AngryishHumanoid 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] NevermindNoMind 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

That's fine. Whether you will admit it or not, just know you are very wrong. And very stubborn. I hope that's going well for you.

[–] AngryishHumanoid -2 points 9 months ago

It's working out really great, I'm actually a lawyer too! My real name is Oliver Wendell Holmes but I try to keep a low profile online.