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More video and eyewitness info on Al Jazeera so far

Also reported on Common Dreams and Middle East Eye.

I haven't found any reports of any independent investigations yet, hopefully they are underway

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Seems like 70 years is a long time to keep a group of people under a crushing grip of apartheid. Perhaps Palestinians watching their family members bulldozed, tortured, bombed, strapped to tanks would evoke something in people?

Also are you seriously talking about the AI infant propaganda that the White House had to walk back on after no evidence was presented? Why not play devils advocate for the people that have now lost over 11K children?

[–] kromem -2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Also are you seriously talking about the AI infant propaganda that the White House had to walk back on after no evidence was presented?

You seem to be confusing the specific report of beheaded infants for which there was no presented evidence with the well documented reports of infants killed and burned.

There's no dispute that infants were killed. Just whether their heads were removed from their bodies by a sharp object before they died.

Also, what the hell does it have to do with AI? You sound delusional adding that in.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Citation needed. Netanyahu claimed 40 Israeli infants were burned alive and or beheaded and then shared an AI generated image of a burned infant.

https://theintercept.com/2023/12/14/israel-biden-beheaded-babies-false/

[–] kromem -2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

There's nothing about AI in that article.

Are you talking about the photo Ben Shapiro shared?

An image expert said that was real and the AI detection tools that flagged it are fake have high false positives (which they do):

But Hany Farid, a professor at UC Berkeley and an expert on digital image manipulation, says the photo is not fake.

https://interestingengineering.com/culture/expert-debunks-ai-tools-claim-that-israels-photo-is-fake,

Edit: More info about the expert cited from his Wikipedia page:

Farid specializes in image analysis and human perception. He has been called the "father" of digital image forensics by NOVA scienceNOW. He is the recipient of a 2006 Guggenheim Fellowship and a 2002 Sloan Fellowship for his work in the field.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

Your expert in the article has no idea what that is a picture of, even if it is not AI generated. I don't trust Israel, who has a literal propaganda division to tell me. If they want they can submit evidence to a independent third party, which of course they will not.

Now please give me an independent, verified source of these 40 babies burned or decapitated. Which you ignored.