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[Discussion] Some of the most active instances will eventually silo themselves (sh.itjust.works)

submitted 1 year ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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We should do our absolute best to not become a siloed instance. I predict we will start seeing certain instances be almost inaccessible which will lead to their users migrating to more open instances. It's already becoming clear to me that certain instances will lose users over time if they continue actively segregating their instance from others.

Individual bad actors on other instances is not a good enough reason to defederate. If a troll is bothing someone they can be blocked/banned on sh.itjust.works. I don't expect instance creators to ban all trolls, it's not possible.

Defederation should be reserved for severe cases when another instance shows no interest in moderating. The two instances defederated right now are justified: one condones the denial historical events and actively censors opposition, and the other was condoning heinous illegal activies regarding underage individuals. These are two clear examples of where defederation makes sense.

Defederation should only be used as a last resort.

My previous post continues this sentiment from a couple days ago here: https://sh.itjust.works/post/281126

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Then you don't understand the paradox of tolerance. Sure, you can make up attributes to a group to justify discriminating against them but in that case, any rules or reason is already a waste of time since you've already decided discrimination is what is right, the explanation for why is just an afterthought.

However, being LGBT is not an opinion, it's not an ideology, there's no cohesive set of values that they share. Most hopefully agree with equal rights regardless of sexual orientation or gender identity but there are LGBT grifters on the right in the US as well. That's why you can't compare it to the alt-right and/or nazism that are only political viewpoints and very distinctly include discrimination. That last part is very important as it's a big difference-maker when comparing them to other political ideologies that aren't based on discrimination.