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[–] deweydecibel 102 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (8 children)

One of the worst unintended side effects of the protest is that it has changed the whole conversation into a "Reddit versus mods" thing, largely by writers that only had a cursory understanding of what was happening.

This wasn't just about moderation tools, and it's shitty how so many headlines have claimed it is by framing it as a mod protest.

What about us regular users? We who supported the protests because we like the 3rd party apps and didn't want to lose them. Why is that not reason enough? Why does this have to be about accessibility or moderation tools in order for it to merit caring about?

Why do mods get concessions but not the users? How about us that don't want to use your trash official app, huh? Where are your vapid promises to us?

[–] xhieron 47 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Proof is in the pudding. There's a reason we're talking about this here instead of on Reddit.

The mods are getting concessions (if they get anything--it's yet to be seen whether anything actually comes of any new promises) because the Reddit admins realize that they need the free labor. They don't need users, because they believe--rightly or wrongly--that nobody else can get enough market share fast enough to actually matter. People will give up on projects like Lemmy and begrudgingly eat whatever ad-friendly shit Huffman feeds them. The users are the product Reddit has to sell to its advertises, and they think they can always make more of those. Mods, on the other hand--those are part of the infrastructure, and they don't make money. They cost money. So Reddit really, really wants those mods to stay/come back and keep working for imaginary internet clout (and the occasional corporate bribe), and they'll pitch whatever lies they can think of to make that happen.

The worst future for Reddit is the one in which subreddits have to be moderated by actual paid employees--employees who do things like adopt statements of end users and expose Reddit to potential liability.

[–] Tired8281 3 points 2 years ago

Can't wait to see Reddit Corporate deciding whether or not a particular post is really gonewildgrannies material!

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