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Final vote: NO

Should probably use something that only allows 1 vote per IP address. I think strawpoll.com and livepoll.io can do that.

VPN voting is also not allowed with this poll. I personally use a VPN and will have to turn mine off to vote on this.

https://strawpoll.com/6QnMO6m53Ze

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yeah, I don't turn my vpn off, period.

Not that it matters. If this instance gets enough fake accounts just to game voting in this single community, we're fucked. You get that many fakes and moderation becomes a full time job. Lemmy doesn't have the tools to cope with it on a moderator level (and from what the admin of pond of the bot attacked instances said, the admin tools are weak as well).

This just makes voting a pain in the ass. Add in a rule about writing a coherent sentence along with your vote, and you'll reduce fakes without the need to leave the app/page, or deal with VPN usage invalidating the ability to participate.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If this instance gets enough fake accounts

Yea, we're already there.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm not seeing it, sorry. Not in the agora, anyway. And not in any numbers trying to sway votes.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I suggest there's an issue with fake accounts and I get downvoted more than any other comment here. 😆 🤡

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

While downvotes don't mean much, in this specific case, it does.

You're so far off base from current reality of the c/ that it looks like you're either trolling or delusional. I doubt either is the case, but that's only because reddit has shown exactly how bonkers shit can get.

But there simply isn't a current problem with fake accounts. You can go through the votes taken and verify that the users who voted aren't a bunch of sock puppets. Or, if they are, whoever is running them has put in enough effort that I ain't even mad.

There may come a day when it's useful to figure out a hard deterrent to fake votes in the agora. It might not even be very long, if enough r/efugees come over. But that day isn't here yet. So far, things are working. There just aren't enough "empty" accounts voting to point to even a single user trying to sock puppet. It points more towards a handful of new users jumping in.

That's why your comment got hit, imo. It's why I down voted it. It took maybe twenty minutes to scroll through and check for empty accounts. You obviously didn't do so, or you wouldn't have made that response. You would have said something else, right?

I mean, I feel you. There was a vote on defederation of exploding heads that surprised me how strong the vote came out based on previous discussions around the instance. So I looked. I thought, maybe it was someone gaming things, or multiple people doing so. Gods know there's people crazy enough to put in the effort! But it just wasn't there.