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It's the highest poll lead we’ve recorded in 4 months in our weekly tracker:

Lab 46% (+1) Con 27% (-2) LibDem 11% (+1) Reform 6% (+1) Green 5% (nc) SNP 3% (nc)

1,631 questioned on 28-29 June

+/- 21-22 June

Data - http://technetracker.co.uk

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Agreed. But the actual numbers that voted for Corbyn-led Labour in 2019 are less catastrophic when stripped of the rhetoric of "landslides" (10.2 million votes for Labour and 13.9 for Tories). The first past the post system we have exaggerated a Tory win when a majority of voters actually voted against the Tories (57% of the vote).

It can't be ignored that the Labour Right and party machine were actively undermining Corbyn at the time. There were even party officials who told each other they'd prefer a Tory win rather than Corbyn as PM.

Also can't be ignored that Brexit had a distorting effect on the 2019 election and Corbyn handled it disgracefully.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

The point is none of that matters because it was a given before hand.

FPTP is fucked, absolutely, the Tories will never change it, and Labour can only change it if they a) get elected, and b) get elected with it in the manifesto.